State Senator Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and Assemblywoman Susan Eggman (D-Stockton) introduced recent legislation “to end blatant discrimination against LGBT young people regarding California’s sex offender registry.”
However, under their bill, SB 145, the offenders would not have to automatically register as sex offenders if the offenders are within 10 years of age of the minor.
Wiener claims the current law “disproportionately targets LGBT young people for mandatory sex offender registration, since LGBT people usually cannot engage in vaginal intercourse.”
Existing law, the Sex Offender Registration Act, amended by Proposition 35 by voters in 2012 (Ban on Human Trafficking and Sex Slavery), requires a person convicted of a certain sex crime to register with law enforcement as a sex offender while residing in California or while attending school or working in California.
Wiener says, “Currently, for consensual yet illegal sexual relations between a teenager age 15 and over and a partner within 10 years of age, ‘sexual intercourse’ (i.e., vaginal intercourse) does not require the offender to go onto the sex offender registry; rather, the judge decides based on the facts of the case whether sex offender registration is warranted or unwarranted. By contrast, for other forms of intercourse — specifically, oral and anal intercourse — sex offender registration is mandated under all situations, with no judicial discretion.”
“This bill would authorize a person convicted of certain offenses involving minors to seek discretionary relief from the duty to register if the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor,” SB 145 states.
Proposition 35 was created and passed to protect children from sexual exploitation and sex trafficking. Victims of sex trafficking are often vulnerable children, “afraid for their lives and abused—sexually, physically, and mentally,” the Proposition said.
What Does SB 145 Also Do?
Legislators Wiener and Eggman say they are trying to shield LGBT young people from having to automatically register as sex offenders for specified sex crimes. But their bill does much more.
SB 145 would allow a sex offender who lures a minor with the intent to commit a felony (i.e. a sex act) the ability to escape registering as a sex offender as long as the offender is within 10 years of age of the minor. No specification is made as to whether the sexual offender is straight or LGBT.
SB 145 would add a section to the state’s penal code (Section 290.55) stipulating that as long as the offender is “not more than 10 years older than the minor,” they are not automatically mandated to register as a sex offender. There is no age limit or range specified, except for existing law which already excludes lewd acts with children under 14.
SB 145 appears to allow adults to victimize minors by luring them with the intent to have sex, and then shields the predator from being automatically registered as a sex offender, as in the case of a 25 year old luring a 15 year old for sex, or a 22 year old luring a 12 year old.
SB 145, as currently written, appears to allow certain sexual predators to live among the population without anyone being aware.
Why is this bill needed?
Here is the text from SB 145:
This bill would authorize a person convicted of certain offenses involving minors to seek discretionary relief from the duty to register if the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor.
Digest Key – Vote: MAJORITY Appropriation: NO Fiscal Committee: YES Local Program: NO
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1. Section 290.55 is added to the Penal Code, immediately following Section 290.5, to read:
290.55. (a) A person convicted of an offense specified in subdivision (b) may, by writ of mandate, seek discretionary relief from the duty, imposed as a result of that conviction, to register pursuant to the act if, at the time of the offense, the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor, as measured from the minor’s date of birth to the person’s date of birth.
Here is the current California Penal Code § 288.3 (2017)
(a) Every person who contacts or communicates with a minor, or attempts to contact or communicate with a minor, who knows or reasonably should know that the person is a minor, with intent to commit an offense specified in Section 207, 209, 261, 264.1, 273a, 286, 287, 288, 288.2, 289, 311.1, 311.2, 311.4 or 311.11, or former Section 288a, involving the minor shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for the term prescribed for an attempt to commit the intended offense.
(b) As used in this section, “contacts or communicates with” shall include direct and indirect contact or communication that may be achieved personally or by use of an agent or agency, any print medium, any postal service, a common carrier or communication common carrier, any electronic communications system, or any telecommunications, wire, computer, or radio communications device or system.
(c) A person convicted of a violation of subdivision (a) who has previously been convicted of a violation of subdivision (a) shall be punished by an additional and consecutive term of imprisonment in the state prison for five years.
Last week, California Globe reported on another sex crime bill introduced by California Democrats: “legislation to shield a person from the consequences of crimes they commit in California, even violent ones, as long as the person reports the crimes to authorities.The language of the proposed statute appears to immunize a person from ANY crime so long as they are reporting a violation of a sex crime law.” Sen. Scott Wiener is the author of California Senate Bill 233.
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"SB 145, as currently written, appears to allow certain sexual predators to live among the population without anyone being aware."
Exactly. And why the heck does Sen Scott Wiener care so much about protecting sexual predators and care so little about protecting California's children? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
About freaking time. Not only LGBT children/teens will benefit from common sense legislation such as this, but the entire community. See, e.g. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/03/14/when-kids-are-accused-of-sex-crimes. KUDOS to these legislators for coming up with common sense laws, rather than scare tactics.
Common sense? You are insane. Get some mental help.
Not everyone has maternal or paternal instincts. Trauma from sexual abuse does not go away even with forgiveness, therapy and a positive attitude. It cripples you emotionally. These people have no protective instincts. They are spiritually dead and that is sad.
Absolutely right! I was molested throughout my childhood, it stays with you and the memories pop up uninvited at random times. I'm 72 now and it's still there.
Even 50 years later it can haunt
How about the teenage girl that sends an explicicit photo of herself to her boyfriend, and gets charged as a sex offender, has to register as the law is now. Should she be set on fire with gas, come on. The bill is to deter this type of injustice, a judge of the person's peers will decide. If there's mitigating factors, it shouldn't be a one case fits all bases. Or, the 18 year old boy or girl having consensual sex with his underage girlfriend or boyfriend, that he or she went to high school with. I agree with punishing sicko's, but not every case is the same. I also don't believe in making sex offenders register, because once its legal to take away the constitutional rights of one group, you make laws that inadvertantly take away your own constitutional rights and freedoms as well.
There is a big difference between a girl sending a picture to her boyfriend and a 22 year old sending pictures to a 12 year old. I mean, seriously? Get out of here with that.
I couldn’t agree more. Wth is wrong with these people???
WHERE ARE CHILDREN'S RIGHTS???
Kids aren’t fully developed physically, mentally, or psychologically! If a 22 yr. old were to rape a 12 yr. old, this child will have many types of issues as an adult. And HOW can this be consensual??? They are still babies!! They DO NOT know any better! What if the child does sense that something is wrong and says NO, they still get away with it?
These PERVERTS NEED to be in mental lock up facilities. Keys thrown away! Or better yet, shot. Wasting taxpayer dollars is foolish!
I could go on and on about this, but will stop right there.
David L Stokes, Your Whole Mindset Is Alarming, Frightening & Disgusting
If The Age Of Consent Is 18 Years Old In This State, THAN THATS THE LINE. Being In The Same High School Has Absolutely NO Grounds For Whether Or Not Someone Is Abusing A Minor. For Instance, In My Highschool We Had A 20 Year Old Senior At One Point At The Same Time There Was A 14 Year Old Freshman, By Your Standards And Morals That Senior Could Have Had Sex With This Freshman And Face Absolutely No Consequences...
I Truly Pray You Have No Children Now Or Ever... I Pray Your Family Never Allow Their Children Around You Because Your Dangerous To Every Minors Innocence.
Anyone Who Is Shocked By This Are Either Living In A Cave Or Have Been So Indoctrinated That They Couldn't See This Coming. This Is What Happens When A Society Of People Become So Ungodly And Sexually Perverted They Can't Help Their Deviant Unnatural Urges To Ruin Future Generations.
Would Anyone Be Surprised If These Nasty AMoral Leftists Sexually Abused An Angel? I Sure Wouldn't Be... Its Whats Happening To Our Young Children All Over The Place. In The Schools With The Trans Education, It's Happening On Our Televisions With These Horrifying Children Exploitation Flixs, It's Happening All Over Social Media Right In Front Of Your Eyes But Your So Lost And Corrupted To See It.
America Has Become Sodom& Gammorah And God Have Mercy On Us All.
In 100 Years People Will Look Back At What Caused Americas Fall... It Started In The 50s 60s Taking God Out Of Everything... Not Long After We Have The Sexual Revolution Of The 70s... Then Lesbianism And Sodomy Of Homosexuality Of The 80s... God Tried Curbing This With Aids In The Late 80s Early 90s...Bisexuality Promoted All Over Television/Media/Movies... While All During This Abortions Skyrocketed Murdering Nearly 70 Million American Babies.
Who Could Be Surprised By Radical Democrats Pushing Pedophilia And Sexual Abuse When They Promote With All Their Might ABORTION? You Think They Care Anymore About A Baby Girl Whether She's New Born And They Squash The Life Out Of Her Or 12 Years Old When They Let Her Rapist Walk Away...And Then They Turn Around And Trick The Girl To Have An Abortion Because Thats Their Whole Agenda
Americans don't support the Registries. Clueless, big government lovers do.
Says who? What makes you think that you're qualified to speak for over 350 million Americans? What records do you have?
Joevabart (February 21, 2019 at 9:04 pm):
Ummm, there are not 350 million Americans. There are about that many people living in the U.S. but absolutely most of them are not Americans at all. They have no idea what actual freedom is. No American could possibly even BEGIN to support the Registries. It only takes a very casual look at them to know that. Quite clear.
People who support Registries need to go F themselves and move to some piece of sh*t, third world cesspool of a country where they'd fit in better. People who do not zealously support the freedom of other people deserve no freedom.
I can’t tell you right now that I’m American and I support registries. Due to the fact of I want to know if there are sex offenders in my area and you want to sit here and say that everyone who supports it is a piece of shit? Imagine having a daughter and having her get raped by a multiple time sex offender that live around the corner from your house. But he doesn’t have to register because he says he’s LGBT. Yeah.
Will is a perv. He wants protection for his crimes.
Molesters need to have a tire out around them, lighter fluid applied, lighter ignited, and burned in the streets for all to see! Then maybe these mentally fucked up people might think twice before committing a crime!! Registering is a slap on the wrist compared to what really should happen to them!!!
Then why do liberals want a registry of my guns?
It’s to protect themselves when they get caught sodomizing children.
Are you a Traditional rapist or a pedophile rapist... just curious...
I am an American. I don't believe in registries. I believe sex offenders and all pedophiles should be exterminated after first offence. Problem solved on the registries issue huh Will?
Will Allen, why are you defending sexual predators?
Over 50 years ago I was victimized by someone 8 years older than me. It haunts me every day. I’m an American who fights against big government and I am highly in favor of the sex offender registry.
I am an American who fights big government and I am totally in favor of sex offender registries. Over 50 years ago I was molested by someone 8 years older than me. It haunts me every day. If the offender is 18, put them on the registry because that child victim will never fully recover. Others need to be warned so hopefully no other child has that terrible life sentence.
CA we the people support the registry overwhelmingly! It’s the pedifiles who don’t support it! Clueless Democrat’s don’t want the registry or maybe their not clueless at all! Just a sicko!
If you sexually molest a child then you know longer have your freedom. You're a sick fuck.
This American and many others do support the registries! What world are you living in? Pedophilia????
I think most americans and non americans would support a sex offender registery. The solution to this is to make every sex offender register, no matter what hole they put it in. You don't make it easier for sex offenders to stay off the registry because they assault children of the same sex. The LGBT community should not be allowing pedophiles to hitch their car to their train.
Mike, in all cases a judge decides the sex offender status. Under the old law if a 18 year old girl gets caught giving her 17 year old boyfriend a blow job she would automatically be registered as a sex offender for the rest of her life. The type of sex was the determining factor. If she risked pregnancy and had vaginal sex then a judge would decide if she was a sex offender. Judges should weigh in for all cases. That makes common sense.
I agree, so why give the predators rights to prey on the innocent when a judge can easily resolve the 17 to 18 years of age cases? They don't obey the laws anyway, this is their dream ticket to molesting and getting away with it!!!
Finally. Someone else who actually read the article. Now a judge has descretionary oversight regardless if the type of sex. That’s the only change. As a victim myself and having 2 other family members go through this a generation later I want all predators removed from society so they won’t hurt anyone else. This article is very inflammatory considering it just makes all sex acts treated the same way.
All child molesters should be put to death. Period.
I guess you think its alright for a 12 year old to give Oral Sex to a 22 year old?
Yea yeah, that is highly unlikely. And the law said if the person is 10 years younger than them. Come on! Don’t defend pedophilia! Sick as all hell! Democrats have ruined America! Liberalism is a disease!!!!!
Thank you , Mike. I am wondering what has happened to common sense.
The only reason someone would be ok with this is if they themselves are a child Molester!
THIS IS NOT OKAY!
Amen
Agreed. A 10 year gap? Are you people nuts?
Exactly
did you actually read and understand the proposed legislation? it does not NEGATE registry. it offers a an appeal process SPECIFIC TO THE CASE for someone to not HAVE TO register. one of my best friends was forced to register as a sex offender for urinating at a concert. he committed suicide less than three years later. this proposition doesn't NOT require sex offenders to register. it allows for a judge to make a ruling on a specific case like ny friend's. learn how to read and get a dictionary. moron.
Thank you! People have no freaking idea what they're posting most of the time. The people that I thought were the smartest in school are usually the idiots posting. I want to screem (do your research).????????
is it common sense to convict a twenty year old of a crime and be forced to register as a sex offender for urinating behind a portapotty at a concert? because it happened to a friend of mine who committed suicide less than three years later. did you even read or understand the proposed legislation? it's to protect someone getting a blow job by their girlfriend from registering as a sex offender, moron. it doesn't DO AWAY with registration. it offers a determination by a judge on a case specific basis. it doesn't erase any existing statute. jesus no wonder this country is going to hell. either illiterate or sp cognitively incapable that you can't understand it even if they COULD read it
This is beautifully said and you are so right on people need to really read things before they state them on the internet I almost flipped when I saw the headlines someone posted regarding this they totally jumped to conclusions and misconstrued the whole thing. Being a parent of a 7 year old child who was abused by a teacher you can imagine how I was ready to freak out but I read it for myself after taking a breath and realizing what it meant I calmed down. But you are right things definitely need to be looked at case by case. Sorry to here about your friend.
Yeah you're right it's going to hell. Due to the Godless people and their new laws allowing perverts to hurt children not excluding parents who push children to be confused about their own gender. SAD.
did you read or understand the proposed legislation? it doesn't negate current registry. it only allows for case specific rulings by a judge. like how, if a friend of mine had had that option, he wouldn't have had to register as a sex offender for urinating behind a port a potty at a concert, and then commit suicide less than three years later as the result of a beer buzzed piss ruining his entire present AND future. instead of going off on anyone that dares disagree with an article you (let's face it) WANTED to he true, why don't you just... learn how to read and decipher written words?
God, no wonder this country is going to hell. illiterate or cognitively impaired or both
That’s fine to let the judge have description but that is NIT the only change. If that was the case they wouldn’t have to say “as long as there isn’t more than 10 years between them”
So it’s ok for a 24 year old to have sex with a 14 year old as long as it’s consensual?
A 14 year old CHILD can’t consent!! They are a child. I could care less what type of intercourse it is.
10 years is ridiculous!! 1 year, maybe 2 like in the case of an 18 yr old and 17 yr old.
I agree the judge should have discretion in this case whether gay, straight, or trans.
Pedophiles (or MAP’s as they’ve tried to rename themselves) are not part of LGBT.
They are only hurting this community with their predatory behavior.
This is a unspeakable act against children, a act that scares them for life. I was molested as a child and was robbed of my innocence an that horrible act has affected me up to this day. All I can say is California deserves to burn with this new law! It's a chapter right out of Sodom and Gomorrah in the bible. Slow I can say is may California continue to burn to ground!!!
Definitely not about freaking time. If someone is abused and their families know that the perpetrator won't be labeled for life as they SHOULD be, now they'll likely, as they should, take the matter into their own hands. Then the perpetrator won't have to worry about being labeled for life because theirs will be over.
that isn't even remotely what the bill says or does. the pain suffered by survivors of one of the worst imaginable traumas does not negate the need to protect young kods' presents and futures ruined for giving their boyfriend oral. you either are not understanding the actual text of the proposed legislation, are allowing your opinion to be formed by the author of the article's obtuse and misleading synopsis of the legislation, or allowing your own pain to cause a knee jerk reaction to the idea of overhauling the current laws. read the proposed legislation somewhere other than this article. i can assure you it does not mean that sex offenders and child molesters do not have to register as such. it protects people who are currently being forced to register, on a CASE SPECIFIC basis, who AREN'T sex offenders or child molesters
So your 22 year old male neighbor can have anal sex with your 12 year old son and you are good with that? That’s kinda sick!
22 year old male neighbor having sex with my 12 year old son? You mean, right before his body is lost forever?
This law is to protect pedophilia is California and say it’s for LGBTQ so that the brainwashed liberals go along with it all.
What?
Why would you even...what's your motive in supporting this?
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If a 17 year old is having sex with a 10 year old, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that their sexual orientation really doesn't matter here. Pedophilia is Pedophilia, it doesn't matter how many acronyms you throw at it.
You are ABSOLUTELY INSANE!!!! How is protecting an adult from taking advantage of a minor (and no, a minor does NOT have the right to consent to have sex with an adult, 18 or over) get to get away with this shit? You must not have children. I mean even people without children know better. You do understand that this allows someone as young as 8....EIGHT YEARS OLD, to be sexually assaulted, again no such thing as consent from an EIGHT year old either, AND NOT BE REGISTERED AS A SEX OFFENDER?????????????? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU??????? WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?????????
That is the opinion of theDems and the supporters. They do not think it is sick.
Jim, the law simply allows judges to evaluate the case before deciding if sex offender registration is required. If a 18 year old girl gives a 17 year old boy a blue job, she would have been automatically required to register as a sex offender for life. Now a judge will decide if that is appropriate.
Sounds good in theory but if it is written the way it is a 20 year old can sex up a 10 year old with zero registration. The 10 year span is too wide. Just move the consent age to15 and go from there!
This goes far beyond that example you gave though !!! They are giving the possibility of a 10 year difference. That's just not right ! Children need to be protected!
No if that what it was meant for then the law would have been written that judges can decide case by case if it’s considered sexual assault. In this bill it says anyone that’s within 10 years of age do not have to commit as a sex offender if they sexually assault someone. It doesn’t say within 10 years of age if they were a couple or doesn’t say within 10 years of age if the child is 14 are above it simply says within 10 years. So that means a 18 year old can hook up with an 8 year old without any consequences as long as the 8 year says it’s consensual. Lol anyone that don’t see how that is sick shouldn’t be a member of society
These people are mentally sick in the head and spiritually dead inside with no morals at all
You do know that this bill passed by a vote of 26-2, right? That means it is not a DEMOCRATS bill. 9 Republicans also voted for it. Are ALL of them sick? Or just the Libtards? Read more about what the bill actually is for. Stop reading this crap website that's brainwashing you.
You said it all for me!!! Thank you!!!????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
and just think, "we" elect these people... way to go, 2019. great start...
Wow this is common sense allow wig children to be sexually abused?
You must be insane... so if a 23 year old male sexually assualts my 13 year old daughter the shouldn't have to register... so i shouldn't register my gun...
No it still illegal for an adult have sex with a minor
You're an idiot. There is nothing common sense coming out of Sacramento. LGBT groups shut the hell up. You get these people (and I use that term loosely) to author weird bills and since the majority of the senate and house are idiot Democrats that know nothing normal, they cater to the fringe. Tired of this shit. This has nothing to do with gay rights moron.
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Do you have children? Apparently NOT!!!????
What does this have to do with LGBT community? Is the bill insinuating that mostly LGBT people lure children?
Your an idiot
Have you read the bill? If not stop showing your ignorance and read it.
18 to 25 year olds are not kids and should know not to prey upon children. This law update should not exist. Just because someone is lgbt does not mean they should be permitted to lure minor children into sex, without full registration under the law and consequential criminal penalties. Minors should be protected from any and alluring by nonminors and anyone who thinks otherwise should be checked for rabies or mental illness. Includibg both Legislators Wiener and Eggman. They should be impeached for reckless endangerment of minors. They are jxxxaxxxes!!
Senator Scott Wiener is the same person who sponsored the law that makes is no longer a felony to INTENTIONALLY INFECT SOMEONE WITH HIV!
The brain of an 18 to 25 year old is not finished just like a 12 year old is not finished, you know that you can not get a lone for college at the age of 18 to 24 and 364 day without your parents co signing it. Because they know your are not an adult yet.
You Virginia are an actual idiot. So an 18 year old could lure an 8 year old under this legislation and no crime? . Seriously....go drink acid. You are evil.
You are one sick puppy.
You are absolutely part of the problem then., Virginia...
Virginia hmm guess you missed the point where a 22 year old could mess with a 12 year old you sick fuck.
If some 23 year old molests my 13 year old granddaughter he isn’t going to be labeled a sexual predator!! WTF is wrong with you!! Oh I forgot you are libturds. Liberalism is a mental disorder! Stay in Cali perverts!!
Well said ! Consider , under this law, passed by brain dead Democrats and dirty minded homosexuals
in our State legislature , an 18 year old could violate an 8 year old and not have to register as a sex offender !
I mean how perverted are our elected officials , anyway ?
You're a sick person as are these idiot legislators.
Are you nuts? This lets a predator off without registering as an offender. When is it ever okay to engage in sex with a minor? You are part of what’s wrong with your warped state!
I'm curious, Virginia. What do you personally believe the age of sexual consent should be? Also, if a 20 year old has sex with a 10 year old, do you believe that's consensual?
Thanks:)
Common sense for pedophiles maybe. Seek help you need it, perv.
Within 2-4 years, maybe, and only for those over the age of consent. When kids play doctor, that's something for parents to talk with them about. Children should not be sexually active with any partners until they're emotionally and mentally capable of engaging as adults. Sexuality should be private, not plastered all over the place, on media, and in homes via the media. Children get the wrong messages about their intrinsic value, and many end up having it wrapped up in their ability to please others at their own expense. This is especially true for the growing number of people now developing high functioning autism, as well as other autoimmune, inflammatory disorders, diseases, and responses. We live in an entirely too toxic world. And it shows.
This is not common sense, common sense would involve absolving young adults who may be in close in age and in consensual relationships, not adult praying on young people. Epstine is prime example.
Virginia Hall, if you really believe this is anything approaching "common sense", you need to be locked up!
You must be a sexual predator.....you like to violate kids..... I’m keeping my eyes on you faggot, lisbo, queer, or whatever the fuck you are, confused Mfer.
Are you insane? Sexual deviants!
You are totally wrong.
What kind of sick f*ck are you? People like you are why people like me carry a piece every day.
I spotted the pedo
get help, you are seriously mentally ill
A 14 year old raping a 4 year old is okay??? or what about a 12 year old raping a baby? This okay too? All these laws are doing is making rape of extremely young children okay for young paedophile rapists.
You’re a perv.
But the Children that are being Used and Abused are left unprotected! If Anyone is Molesting Children, Regardless of Sexual Preference, Must be held Accountable! They must register. If you don't like the consequences, Don't Force yourself on Children.
Virginia, first let me say you my dear are going straight to hell. Good riddance. This "common sense" law you are talking about is an affront to mankind and has no place in these United States.
Disgusting, perversion! To even think this out and waste tax payers money! To protect pedifile, exploitation of minors; rape is rape!! You are are the most corrupted trash can for a brain human!!
With no social moral, heartless and criminal to even allow this to be a thought!
You are completely off your rocker Virginia Hall. Please seek some competent help before you hurt somebody.
So your ok with a nineteen year old raping a nine year old! What kind of sick pervert are you?
Bitch, WTF are you talking about? This protects THE ADULT PREDATOR. Children do not go to jail for having sex with adults, THE ADULTS DO, as well they should. Are you a fucking pedo? Kill yourself now.
I think a whole lot of you people are acting crazy. I get being upset ,but attacking Virginia and saying she should die and crap like that is horrible. She sounds confused like all the rest of the Godless people, but we are no better then them. We should pray for each other and our country. ????
You sick bitch! What the fuck is wrong with you? How the hell does this protect LGBTQ? This is horrid! The Democrats want to turn America to a communist country! WTF HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?
You are sick. No sexual orientation should be engaging or even TOUCHING A MINOR! THIS IS UBSERD! WTF
You are either insane or a child molester
What common sense are you talking about?! The one that you are using to rape minors????
you are sick ! and it is clear those who ar " of the LBGTQ community are into sex with kids YET want us all to accept your sexual preference as normal between to consenting Adults? YOU are sick perverted and child trafficking animals.
I'm sure you and your 13 year old partner are overjoyed
Obviously you don’t have Any kids.
Me as a father, would want to know what creep lives around my kids, Where my kids walk, what school they go to. Just over all who what negative person lives around me. I don’t see how this bill would benefit a group of individuals. I don’t see the point and benefits on why stop protect kids, and protect the pedophiles
Are you fucking kidding me, here let me just give up my children's future to you insane people. The lgbt community have made their choice that's fine, UT when you tell us that our children no longer have protection and our communities no longer have a right to know who these people are you have stepped over the line.
Get out of office because this tells me you have some serious skeletons in your lost and at this point I want an investigation into all of you..
You're a sic puppy
This is completely wrong. Children that age can be easily manipulated, and tricked into doing such acts. They typically don’t understand what’s happening. It truly changes them, and they’ll never quite be the same again. I can vouch for that. It’s wrong, and always will be wrong. I don’t care what anyone says.
WE DO. WE BELIEVE IN OUR CHILDREN. YOU SUPPORT THEM HUH? YOU LOVE THEM. HMMM. I WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE, KIDS. I HAVE FOUGHT FOR 40 YEARS OVER STATUTES OF LIMITATIONS. YOU? NEED TO STOP.
Your a fucking pedophil dumbass if this is common sense to you. Go to hell
I have a friend whose twin brother started sexually abusing her at age 6 because the older brother and his older friends told him what to do - this would be horrible for sexual abuse victims
So, a 14 year old can have sex with a 4 year old without consequences??
Common sense? What's wrong with you? Since when is pedophilia and rape of a minor acceptable?
Common sense would be a 5 to 10 year prison sentence for a first offense. Surgical castration for a second offense. And capital punishment for a third offense.
You are crazy! Go see a psychiatrist and get on med's. My own law is, you touch my child and you will have a .45cal in your mouth and you will swallow that bullet! You are a POS by definition if you're protecting sex offenders and child molesters!
Just having that thought process should land you on Megan's Law. You're sick in the head. I'll be damned if my daughter hooks up with a 23 year old when she is 14. You're going to burn in hell.
I take it you’re one of those people that likes to commit sex crimes and use children in perverted ways they should hang you along with the so-called senator that is writing this bill
Wow! So you support pedophiles and not children? You’re a disgusting human being!
Since when would Weiner care whether or not a girl had ill consequences from sexting! Does he have a family member that was caught up in something like that, which would explain his motives??? Nope!!! This is what they call a “Gateway Bill” people!!!!! They introduce a bill that isn’t an obvious, blatant infraction to some people’s sensitivities. (Even thought it should!!)
Then bam, next thing you know, sex with a minor, slowly becomes acceptable...because anyone that fights it is, racist, homophobic....we know the routine.
This woman has lost her god-damned mind
Cute word game you are attempting to play, but let's refer to the actual wording.
It specifies "may, by writ of mandate, seek discretionary relief from the duty .... to register ..." So the relief would not be automatic - it would be at a judge's discretion.
Secondly, you don't seem bothered by the existing law that allows the same discretionary relief so long as it involves vaginal intercourse - it's only when the law is expanded to include oral or anal intercourse that you become upset. Anti-LGBT much???
You got a great point, the law should be changed to read "all convictions of any sexual act at any age must register as a sex offender" It is bad enough these young people are scared to come forward when these acts happen and know they will not have the fear of registering as a sex offender for life. My 20+ year marriage ended do this very issue age difference was only about 6 years. These acts scars victims and future families for life. Thier is more than the only the LGBT community this applies. Wish people would stop to think about the majority not the minority!
This opens the door for a payoff. So the rich pedophiles can buy their way out. Yup, only California could come up with something like this!
why they protect sex offenders?
Pedophilia is wrong whether your gay or straight. A judge to make a “decision “ whether to “protect” a person who molested a 10 year old?? Are you freaking kidding me dude? There should be no decision making at all! It should be straight punishment! It goes against moral decency. It absolutely baffles me beyond my mind that a person would think it’s okay that their 10 year old child gets molested by someone who’s also gay and think “oh that’s okay, he’s gay, he doesn’t know any better, no punishment for him” For someone who’s absolutely okay with this bill is an idiot
Anti-children much??? Any decent person would be more concerned with protecting childrens safety than protecting a bunch of adults with mental problems and screwed up morals!!!
What are you going to do when they come for your children or grandchildren you bunch of sadistic perverts
Here it is: the very rich and powerful LGBT caucus in the Democrat dominated state of California is working to protect pedophiles, those who would harm and abuse children. This bill would protect an 19 year old man that molests an 9 year old. The nation needs to see this. This is abhorrent.
California is very evil. The “big one” will solve all this.
Here it is: the very rich and powerful LGBT caucus in the Democrat dominated state of California is working to protect pedophiles, those who would harm and abuse children. This bill would protect a 19 year old man that molests an 9 year old. The nation needs to see this. This is abhorrent.
Amen
What this new law does is allow equal treatment with a judge weighing in on sex offender status for all cases. Previously, if a man and a woman were caught in the act, and they were 17 and 18 years of age, a judge might rule that life time sex offender status was not appropriate. However, if two young men of 17 and 18 years age were caught doing something similar. The 18 year old would automatically be a sex offender for life. Basically, the previous law gave special status to penis/vagina sex, and everything else was automatic sex offender for life status. Now a judge can decide. It is much more reasonable now.
You cannot site 17 and 18 years old examples when it clearly states a 10 year difference. Come on man! Why ten years? Seriously! Why ten years? There is a huge difference between 20 and 30 and 20 and 10 - Mentally, emotionally, physically! It is to ambiguous as written. To much room for error at the discretion of one judge. Come on man! Recently a man that raped a baby, A BABY, broke the baby ribs, BROKE THE BABIES RIBS, got 4 years, 4 YEARS, at the discretion of a judge! Come on man! Write a better law. This one is to generalized and it sucks. Lazy, lazy, lazy, and biased, biased, biased. Come in man! There is a difference between two kids in high school - yes! Defending this as written leaves the door wide open and YOU KNOW IT!
Maybe hes one of them
Why place the Democratic party ahead in the headline? Just because they are Democrats it doesn't mean all Democrats are in agreement over this proposal. As a Democrat myself I am totally against it.
These Democrats in California are sick demonic evil sick people
They are sick and demonic , alright . Evil , as in Hollyweird, TV , pornography business , Jeffrey Epstein Harvey and so many others
God will judge them for their pedophilic evilness and none too soon . I hear the Corona virus has come to
CA .
All I can say is I hope his children are next to be violently attacked by one of these disgusting pieces of human trash because there no fixing this type of illness they convict them they let them out and they do it again and again till they are caught. history has proven that but I guess they think they are safe behind ther gates and wall so the rest of have to live with in our nabour hoods
All true. They follow in the steps of their Hollywood and Pornography brethren . Jesus said, if someone offends a child, it would be better for that person to have a millstone
around his neck and he is drowned in the ocean.
You are worst then sex offender.. All I hope that you all have children and pray that one of these sex offender that you let free won’t be one that will attack one of your kids or family members and see how you going to feel that pain because I believe in karma and it going to bite you in the ass..parasite that what you all are..????????????????????
California lawmakers gone amock. Just more signs the state is in serious trouble. Our children are at risk. Does anyone in Sacramento care?
this is called post birth abortion, aborting minds and souls of humans even if they are born
I guess all of the above are Gay and think it's okay to lure children into a sexual situation
**** are degenerate pedophiles , pure and simple . Why else would they pass this bill and the current pornographic
sex ed curriculum? Think about it . Under this bill , an eighteen year old could legally have sex with an eight year old
and not be forced to register as a sex offender ! Are you kidding me ? The curriculum was generated by homosexuals in the Department of Education, the
Senate Education Department and radical gays in GLAAD, who don't have any children and leftists in Planned
Parenthood NO PARENTAL IMPUT ? The CA State Legislature is totally sick . Vote the Democrats out of
office .
I really think this is wrong. They need some kind of help. Look at Ted Bundy and others like him. Is started young and continued into adulthood. Theb he raped abd killed women. No these people need help before they endup with a record for life. This bill is not good unless they seek medical attention.
Looks like some law makers have been lobbied by some devout Muslims.
How can anyone trust someone with the last name Wiener to have a reasonable say about sex? Gay or not, sexual abuse is sexual abuse and if its unwarrented then no matter what you claim to be. Wrong is wrong. If its illegal, you Should be punished by the legal system and branded a pervert. These organizations are only protecting criminals!
Most likely because they are perverts the likes of Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, etc.
This is ABHORRENT. Pedophiles will burn in the depths of hell unless they ask Christ into their hearts and FULLY change their ways. They under no circumstances need bills pass to allow them to traumatize children. Death penalty for the pedos!
I am absolutely disgusted by the people who are even considering this bill, and what it means for innocent children. I don’t care if you’re gay, straight or just plain confused. It’s a great way to further prove that the Democratic Party is completely nuts. And I’m a Democrat-shame on these legistators. Take this Bill OFF THE TABLE now!
I am absolutely disgusted by the people who are even considering this bill, and what it means for innocent children. I don’t care if you’re gay, straight or just plain confused. It’s a great way to further prove that the Democratic Party is completely nuts. And I’m a Democrat - shame on these legistators. Take this Bill OFF THE TABLE now!
Are you people morons? Sex Offenders ALL should be Registered & held to the utmost Law. Children are being used as Sex Trafficking & abused in every sexual way & you want tie offender to be protected. You all have lost your damn minds. WTH is this world coming to? Would you support this if one of your Children was a victim of sexual abuse. I think not if you say yes you are a damn LIAR. Get yourself in your right minds. God help Us & Our blessed Children. This is ludicrous.
100% correct protect the children!
No! Absolutely not!
Money!
It breaks every law that protects children from being abused and in most cases facing a lifetime of emotional damage! It's an act that is putrid and devastating to it's victims!
Hillary clinton and Jeffrey Epstein look them up.they ste all in this togethet
Yall are sick twisted and need to get on your knees and beg for forgiveness because hell is a gonna be a terrible terrible place. I will be praying for everyone of you. We have got to give this country back to God.
wow Lord help these people that think this is okay. What a sick and twisted bunch of people. I am so angry about this can you not protect our children ??? Ive got something that can and I will you can believe that. Why do you put us in that position ?? But you also need to think about this, when Jesus Christ returns and asks you about this what are you going to say?? You cant take it back and hell is a terrible place. If i were you I would get on my knees and beg dor forgiveness and resign !!!! Because you and the rest that passed this bill are going to regret this decision when it possibly happens to one if your family members. I will be praying for you.
So... in addition to fleeing the highest taxes in the nation all Californians with kids under the age of 18, gay or straight, must flee the state to protect their children from sexual predators. No adult, gay or straight, should be having sexual encounters with a minor. Period. #protecthechildren #downwithhumantrafficking #pedophiliaiswrongwhether you are gayorstraight #unconscianable #wtfCalifornia?!!!
So an 18 year old who has sex with his 16 year old girlfriend should be branded a sex offender for the rest of his life? Is that what you suggest?
If I caught some 18 year old S.O.B. with my 16 year old daughter he would not live long enough to face any charges! Period!
I think the issue is...why did they stop there? Of course common sense is needed in those cases. So why did they not simply specify THAT, vs allowing a ten year age gap? Seems to me that if they really cared about kids they'd have made ALL sexual acts punishable and not left a loophole for genuine pedophilia/assault. It's not that bloody hard. And yeah, I get that it's a discretionary decision by a judge. Our judges have turned out to be so honorable and upstanding, right?
In Kalifornia, I believe it would be if she's 15 or below.
YES!
It would be refreshing if leftist activists would disclose up front that they see irrelevant and unnecessary legislation such as this trivia not as "common sense laws" or seeking "justice," but instead as one more opportunity to create confusion and to undermine an otherwise functioning society.
I'm thankful that not all LGBT folks consider themselves to be members of an identity group but would prefer to be seen as individuals.... as most people do.
This is more "fake" (or at the very least inaccurate) news. The byline states "No crime if the person is within 10 years of age of the minor," yet this is not at all what this bill seeks to accomplish. Neither is "luring" minors involved. The bill, as proposed, would not decriminalize the unlawful sexual activity. Instead, it would give discretionary (not mandatory) authority to a judge to not require the convicted to register as a sex offender. The bill does nothing to impact the unlawfulness of the underlying criminal activity. This act is designed to give judges the option to not require sex offender registration in cases where the individuals involved are close in age (example: 22 and 17), where there was no violence or coercion, and where requiring the defendant to register as a sex offender would be unduly harsh. Since when is over-punishing non-violent, non-predatory conduct considered a "conservative" virtue?
I agree with what your statement says...I looked at the old bill and the revised bill and I see what it is intended to do.I read other people comments and I see a lot of overreaction and misunderstanding of facts.Hopefully,they won't all be quick to jump out there with protests and shit...They will look very dumb.
You pervert . An 18 year old can have sex with an 8 year old and have it be perfectly legal ? ?
This bill is crafted by the same people who brought you the pornographic sex ed curriculum . They are pedophiles ,
pure and simple. Death to all of them
If this is true , then why didn't Mr. Low , or Mr. Weiner , make the age difference 2- 3 years instead of
10 ? They knew what they were doing
I'm confused as to how the author claims the bill "protects sex offenders who lure minors." I don't see where such crimes will not be prosecuted or terms of imprisonment avoided. All I see is where it gives judges discretion whether or not mandate registration. Even if the bill passes, it won't affect anything - judicial discretion very rarely swings in favor of those accused of sex offenses.
Over 95% of sex crime is committed by those not on the registry. That rate is virtually unchanged from before the registry went public. Despite popular opinion, those convicted of sex offenses are among the least likely recidivists (second only to murderers) and always have been. Even among the very small handful of registrants that do sexually re-offend, the registry plays no role in investigation or arrest. I defy anyone to find one case anywhere where a current registrant committed another sex crime that would not have been solved but for the registry.
Seems like the author disagrees with most courts' contention that the registry is not punishment because legislatures never intended them to be, a rather idiotic claim. That's like saying the Rams won the Super Bowl because they didn't intend to lose. At least the author got one thing right in this inane clickbait posting.
That is the truth. Sexual abuse is a wound that stays with you for life. These people should be executed like they used to. They are scum. A grooming relationship between a 14-year-old heterosexual or homosexual and a 24-year-old adult is evil. These same people brought you the Sexxx Ed curriculum. Look it up and be appalled
Protect your innocent little ones from Hollywood, pornography business, Sexx Ed curriculum in school and now this! Leave CA and disconnect from Hollywood connected filth and violence. Go back to healthy, loving relationships
Once again the state of California and especially the liberal democrats prove that they would sell their children to gain votes. Parents with small children should know who are the criminals in their neighborhood. California democrats have and are giving away the few protections left to American citizens. They are surrendering everything to gain votes from mentally unstable people.
I assume that people who want a sex offender registry also want a registry that shows everything anyone has been convicted of. This is, after all, the only way to make sure that parents know where the dangerous people are. Arsonists, burglars, drunk drivers, etc, are far more likely to be dangerous to children that those who have committed sex offenses. Therefor, shouldn't there be a felon database available to everyone?
(This has been a sarcastic post, intended to point out the stupidity of the sex offender registry.)
You pervert loving idiot. Sex registries show parents were NOT to move, as many pedophiles are repeat offenders All the " legislators " who back this bill were Left-wing homosexual ethnic Jews. Enough said.
They also run Hollywood and the pornography business ( 90% ).
The $EX Offender Registries ($ORs) serve no legitimate public safety or law enforcement purpose. The purpose of the $ORs is for gossip, to grow Nanny Big Government (NBG) bigger, help politicians, fuel the outrage media, and enable and promote punishment/harassment/restrictions, including by private businesses, throughout all of Amerika. THAT is the use of the $ORs.
People who think the $ORs “work” or do anything beneficial, are completely uninformed. Today, there are no people who are actually serious about public safety or protecting children who support the $ORs. None.
Empirical evidence from actual reality, and not Registry Fantasyland, proves that the $ORs have not been useful. But it can be shown by simple examples as well. Say that you have two neighbors – one is listed on the $ORs and one is not. Which one has committed more $EX crimes? Which one is more dangerous today? You don’t have the first clue. Can you treat either of them any differently and still be protecting you and/or your family? Clearly not. So what has your $OR knowledge done for you? Nothing. All it will do is allow immoral people to gossip and ostracize the Registered person and his/her family. Obviously the $ORs are not something that moral people need.
Yet while the $ORs are not needed or significantly beneficial, they are gravely harming all of Amerika. They are responsible for widespread hate. Everyone needs to embrace and love that.
Remember that “if you see something, say something” nonsense? Forget it. The NBG criminal regimes have proven that they are immoral. They are not the solution. F them and their harassment “databases”.
It only points out your pedophile preference for gay/ child relationships , as registries for felons do exist .
You people are mentally and morally ill.
Under no circumstances is it acceptable for an adult to have relations with a minor. Man-girl, man-boy, woman-boy, woman-girl: all are equally repugnant. (A 24 year old having sex wuth a 14 year old? Just no)! Only a nut would be okay with that. As a parent and grandparent, I would be livid if an adult tried anything with one of my kids.
Oh so you think Germany's crazy? Cause there that's legal. What about most of South America? Are they crazy too? Doubt it.
Yes Jack, we immigrated from germany and they are crazy....crazier by the day. And with the huge influx or so-called "refugees" making a shambles of the country we knew, along with the rest of Europe, will be a memory. And yes...South America is crazy as well, and with the invasion taking place, the US soon will be as well
But your own children are grown now (since you have grandchildren.) So you would be upset if a grown adult expressed interest in one of your own grown adult children? I mean, that's what you said, right? That you'd be livid if an adult tried anything with one of [your] kids (who are now adults)?
David, that is a stupid comment. How old are you? 14?
David you are giving out the impression that you are either gay, a sex offender or one who has no morals at all. To put a person on a sex offender list definitely makes that person very aware of what they have done and that usually means they will never do it again. Giving them any kind of lee way to commit the crime again and not having to worry about anyone knowing about it will not stop them from doing it over and over. It is insane to even think of older people using children for their sexual pleasure, and the idea of passing laws to lessen this as a crime is senseless. We are seeing a lot of this in the states these days and that is very sad. Morals have been thrown out the window and anything seems to be OK, as you are sounding like one who thinks that way. Now if you are not intending to make people think of you as this kind of person...maybe you should either stop writing anything or change what you are saying.
So a 18 year old and a 9 year old is OK for these sick politicians!
Not what the article said, at all. Made it abundantly clear it would only apply to offenses involving minors aged 15 and up.
Leo...Thanks for the example that would be a registering offense. Any judge that said otherwise would be headed down the Aaron Persky trail I don't think you're reading the article correctly. First off, this is leveling the playing field in cases of oral/anal sex verses vaginal sex. A 21 year old male meets a 17 year old female (with a fake ID) in a bar. They go back to his place and have vaginal sex. He can be prosecuted by law, Ignorance is no excuse, but he may not have to register as a sex offender (Discretion), But if they have oral sex he will have to register. This will allow the judge to decide whether he is a threat to society or not. What do you think?
Some laws just seem illogical to me. Years ago I read about a 23 yr. old police officer in Indiana who was living with his girlfriend who was seventeen. That's legal in that state. They also had sex which is legal there. But, he crossed the line when he took naked pictures of her with his cell phone. Federal child pornography laws. Go figure?
Clear definition of GROSS NEGLIGENCE. You reprobates come near my grandchildren and I will not call 911!!!!
My, my such a stark warning, Mr. Allen. You understand, don't you, that this media is read nationwide. And the remarks added by people could come from anywhere. ... even Russia, China
Germany, etc. How in the world would you imagine that anyone posting a comment to this website would ever happen to cross paths with one of your children??? That said, I hope you now feel very self-satisfied that your have verbally protected your loved one.