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California Legislature Passes Health Insurance Individual Mandate Penalty

CA bringing back a key part of Obamacare

By Katy Grimes, June 25, 2019 6:40 am

Despite that 93 percent of Californians have health insurance, the California Legislature voted Monday to tax California citizens who do not buy health insurance. This penalty revenue will be used to fund health insurance subsidies to encourage more people to purchase health insurance, and to provide health care to illegal immigrants.

Passage of SB78 creates the “Individual Mandate” to require Californians to purchase health insurance, and imposes a fine for failure to do so.

The nonpartisan Legislative Analyst’s Office warned this could indirectly result in increased state costs in Medi‑Cal, and/or if the individual mandate actually succeeds in more Californians signed up for state health insurance, fewer Californians will pay the penalty tax resulting in less money.

Data from the Affordable Care Act shows that the people most likely to owe the penalty are young, healthy people with jobs that pay $30,000 to $50,000 per year. “It makes no sense that young people making $30-50k per year are paying so that other people making $75k-130k per year can get a subsidy,” Assemblywoman Melissa Melendez (R-Lake Elsinore) Tweeted. “The fine, or tax because that’s what it is, is $695 per adult, $347.50 per child, or 2 1/2 percent of a household’s gross income, whichever amount is greater.”

Gov. Gavin Newsom’s plan to reinstate the individual mandate is to force healthy people to buy the state health insurance. In essence, the people who will be punished are the ones who can’t afford insurance because they don’t receive subsidies for not buying the some of the most expensive insurance in the country, and will likely cost them $14,000 per year, and will not be actual insurance until the $5,000 deductible is paid. This penalty/tax will be used to pay for the health coverage for illegal immigrants.

Lawmakers also approved a bill that to provide Medi-Cal government-funded health insurance to illegal immigrants, in the country illegally. Since both of these were covered in Gov. Gavin Newsom’s original budget, it is anticipated he will approve both within the budget trailer bill.

Katy Grimes

Katy Grimes, the Editor of the California Globe, is a long-time Investigative Journalist covering the California State Capitol, and the co-author of California's War Against Donald Trump: Who Wins? Who Loses?
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33 thoughts on “California Legislature Passes Health Insurance Individual Mandate Penalty

  1. SB78. I am an Independent Contractor that makes about $40,000-$50,000 a year after taxes. The only plans available to me under Covered California are $600 a month with a $6000 deductible. There is NO WAY I can afford that. So, now they’re going to penalize me monetarily because I can’t afford healthcare!?!? And, they’re going to take MORE of my tax dollars and give it to people that shouldn’t even be here. This will be another crippling tax on me. They are driving me right out of my beloved home state of California. The liberal government, the single party government, is ruining this state. Look at our streets, our crime, our tax rates, all the highest in the country and now they’re going to take MORE of my money and give it to illegals. It is so obvious the democrats are planning to change the demographics of this state and all they want is to drive American citizens out of California. SHAME ON ALL OF THEM

    1. Show that your mad vote Trump or vote for socialism and politicians who care more about open borders and illegals getting free health on your dime

    2. Carol – You will be exempt from the penalty if the net cost of the lowest cost bronze plan available to you exceeds 8.3% of your modified adjusted gross income. Same exemption as was in the now zeroed-out federal mandate penalty.

  2. Carol M, I feel your pain. I’m in the same boat. I was able to escape the ACA penalty as I had an exemption that I was able to use (death in family) and I finally breathed a sigh of relief when the penalty went away. Now, in a short time, the criminals in Sacramento are bringing it back! I am already making plans to leave the state if I can’t find a way to avoid the penalty. I’ve lived here for over 40 years and don’t really want to leave, but they have succeeded in pushing me out. I think the next thing on the chopping block will be the repeal of Prop. 13, they are just itching to do it already and have been talking about it for a while. It’s only a matter of time before they completely destroy the state. No one will want to live here except illegal alien invaders who get everything for free at our expense. I’m hoping for a miracle (not expecting one) that a lawsuit will block this illegal “penalty” from taking effect in January. It’s illegal since NO ONE voted for it! Recall Newsom and his cronies in Sacramento!

    1. Well said John. I am a California native, born and raised. I hate the thought of leaving but I just cannot keep up with all the taxes, fees, etc. they keep dropping on my head. Such as shame.

      1. Carol, I haven’t given up hope just yet, but it doesn’t look promising so far that this will be stopped. I also have to wonder how they are going to inform people that this new (again, illegal) tax/penalty is coming shortly? No one is talking about it anywhere that I can see – a couple of sites like ZH and Breitbart mentioned it briefly but nothing in the news at all. So, January comes and “Surprise!” you owe us money because you can’t afford health insurance? How can this be legal in anyone’s mind? As bad as Obamacare was, at least there were a couple of years warning that it was coming, and the penalty was much lower the first couple of years. The greedy SOBs in Sacramento are going whole-hog with the full $695/PP or 2.5% of income (whichever is larger!) with no phase-in period. I am beyond apoplectic about this, no words can contain how angry I am at this development. To have to uproot our entire lives to escape this injustice, try to acclimate to a new state, make new friends – it’s just beyond comprehension. But I am adamant, I will not pay this extortion regardless of what I have to do. It would be bad enough if it were going to help American citizens (who still should pay for their own HC), but it’s beyond insulting that they want to steal this money from us to give to illegal aliens who have no right to be in this country in the first place! Let there be no doubt, this is the road to destruction of this once fine state. I’m not native to CA but have lived here for over 2/3 of my life, and never thought it would come to this. So sad.

    2. I am born and raised in California but because of Governor Nuisance I plan on leaving California as well. Do we not have the right to vote on these propositions?

  3. Are there any exemptions? I doubt I will qualify. I just dropped my insurance as it was basically useless, just like the article described. My employer does cover about half of my policy, but I still pay about $300/month for the privilege of a $5000 deductible before any insurance kicks in, aside from yearly wellness checkups. I may end up leaving the state as well. I can’t afford a 2br apartment in SLO where I live, and I need one as my daughter is turning 13 this year and needs her own room. I will even admit I make more money than I ever have, but I can’t buy a house here. A single dad in a professional career can’t afford real estate in my town.

    1. David, I haven’t been able to find out much about this so far. The only known exemptions are: Felons in prison, Illegal Aliens, and Indians. The specifics aren’t available yet but should be soon. Then it’s time to start packing and get out of here. I guess I’ll have to decamp to Nevada, and hope they don’t try the same thing there, since it’s pretty much a blue state too (just not as insane as California … yet).

  4. Newsom is going against federal law which is illegal. He is doing whatever the hell he wants regardless if Trump repealed that penalty. Penalizing people for not being able to afford something is ILLEGAL. I would have to pay 600 per month with thousands in a deductable. I can’t even touch that. Newsom is going to be sued, and people aren’t goint to file taxes. He’s a corrupt politician trying to change California into a socilaist country.

    1. Reneer, I’m hoping NewScum will be sued, but there isn’t much time for either the FedGov to do something to stop this, or private lawsuits. There’s barely six months before this horrible scam is foisted upon us. I knew that NewScum would be worse than “Moonbeam” Jerry Brown, but how much worse was unknown until a few days ago. All the politicians in Sacto work for illegal aliens, they do not represent us in any way, shape or form – in fact, they have become our enemies based on their statements and actions. What to do? They “claim” that only 7% of Californians are without insurance, so why are they harassing and fining us so much? As I stated above, there isn’t even a phase-in period for you to prepare like there was for the ACA penalty. They’re just going to slam it on us – and I suspect that many, many people are going to be blindsided when they find out the state wants $695/pp in extra taxes next year. This has gone far beyond outrageous, it’s treasonous to protect illegal invaders and give them aid and comfort from our pocketbook. Where is the Trump administration on this issue? The state plans to use part of the Medicaid money they receive from the FedGov along with money they expect to steal from us to pay for this illegal program. I’m trying to learn more but there isn’t much to find so far. If you or anyone else learns more details, please post it here.

  5. To Senator McGuire (senator.mcguire@senate.ca.gov)

    Subject: SB78 2019 100705(c)(4) Violates US Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment

    Senator,

    California’s recently passed bill, SB78 2019, stipulating an “Individual Mandate”
    to maintain health insurance exempts from penalty,

    “(4) An individual who is not a citizen or national
    of the United States and is not lawfully present
    in the United States for that month.”

    https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB78/2019

    The violation is quite egregious for these reasons:

    1. It actually subverts the stated purpose of the law by not incentivizing
    these individuals in obtaining health insurance if able; and

    2. It discriminates based on nationality, providing immunity to fines for
    “not citizen/not lawfully present” individuals while mandating punishment of
    US Citizens; and

    3. The intent — perhaps to be fair — can be accomplished without
    discrimination by a financial hardship test.

    When I heard about this law I thought it sounded reasonable, assuming that
    it applied to everyone equally. Then I learned that illegal immigrants are
    specifically exempted from punishment, favoring them over US citizens. That
    rankles! And consider that it also exempts wealthy illegal immigrants, such
    as Russian or Chinese oligarchs fleeing their homelands, as well as criminal
    gang/mafia members. I don’t imagine that was the intent.

    There is time to amend this unconstitutional law before it goes into effect
    on January 1, 2020. If not, California should expect lawsuits.

    Sincerely,
    “Marc” (my email pseudonym)

    1. Marc, that’s a great letter, please post back if you get any reply at all. These so-called “public servants” (a big joke) in Sacramento just do whatever they please, they think they’re untouchable at this point due to the super majority they have in the senate. There needs to be a recall of all of them from the governor on down, throw all the bums out! What a contrast in just a few short years, we went from Prop. 187 (no freebies for illegal invaders) to SB78 (give them everthing!) – hard to imagine how fast this state went full on socialist. The only difference between now and then? Millions more invaders, being given driver’s licenses and being allowed to vote. What a shock, they vote for more socialists and more freebies for themselves. The politicians pander to them all day long, while we, the tax slaves, are ignored and ridiculed. This can only go on for so long. It will end. Will it end well? Time will only tell. Meanwhile, I will not pay this “penalty” and will move out of the state if necessary. Nevada, Texas, Florida, or another state with no income tax sounds good right about now. When all the taxpayers leave, what’s their brilliant plan to pay for all the freebies? Good luck with that.

  6. John,

    I did write to the ACLE and UC Berkeley’s California Constitution Center
    asking for legal help. Nothing back yet 🙂 I also wrote to Governor Newsom.

    I am also not happy about the situation with PG&E and the planned Public Safety
    Power Shutoffs that are possibly going to happen every fire season for the
    next 10 or more years. Up to a week, or more without power, affecting even large
    cities possibly! No cell phones, probably. Possibly water shortages too. Gas
    stations closed. Groceries closed. Teslas stuck at home! I think we should fix
    the power system faster than PG&E is planning and rejoin the 21st century.

    There are many other topics of great practical concern to me. Things that will
    affect me personally. I am trying to learn to be like a Stoic, and ask myself,
    “What would Epictetus do?”

    http://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html

    Or, to put it differently, what would Commander Spock of Star Trek do?

    Live long and prosper…

    1. Marc, Spock only had to deal with Klingons (and Tribbles), while we have to deal with insane Democrats that have taken total command of the Starship California. I don’t know how they can expect to shut off power to millions and have it off for days. It’s just not possible to do, too many things will be affected, including their pet illegals. So, what will happen? I don’t pretend to be wise enough to know, but I do know one thing: I don’t want to be around when it happens! While I wish I knew of some magical place to escape all this craziness, all I can do is take my best guess and go with it. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but staying here and watching this insanity accelerate to “Ludicrous Speed” (Spaceballs reference) isn’t an option either.

  7. Well, obviously the A.c.l.e. – Associazione Culturale Linguistica Educational will not be
    very helpful in this matter. I should write to the ACLU 🙂

  8. Thank you Christopher, I hope you are right about the exemption though somehow I just don’t have any confidence that will actually be the case. John, you nailed it. “Extortion” is exactly what this is, like so many of the other taxes we pay here in CA. And, today, the gas tax goes up another 5 cents, highest in the country now, Yay!

    1. Carol, at least you know you aren’t alone in your anger at this gross injustice. We’re all in the same boat, how we bail out of this sinking boat may vary, but bail out we will! And also, as you stated, the gas tax went up today (I went to GasBuddy and checked, and sure enough, all the stations are 6c higher today – actually 5.6c rounded up – of course!). But interestingly, we don’t have the highest gas taxes in the country (yet – just give ’em time) that honor goes to (quote from another website): “California’s gas prices may be highest, but their gas tax is not. Pennsylvania, under Democrat Tom (if you elect me, I will raise your taxes) Wolf, has the honor of having the highest gasoline taxes in the US at 58.7 cents per gallon. Prices in PA vary county to county based on local taxes as well, which also increase the price per gallon. However, California prices are higher, but there are other reasons, not explained by the gas tax.” However, the gas tax here is set to continue to rise every July 1 for, well, forever. I’m sure we’ll manage to pass PA in having the highest gas taxes before too long. Meanwhile, I have yet to see even one road I drive on repaired, in fact most are worse than ever. Any doubt where the billions of dollars are going? While people in Hawaii, where all gasoline has to be brought in by tanker over the ocean, pays a minimum of 10c less per gallon than we do, here where the gas is refined!

      Just another reason to plan your escape from here. The only thing they haven’t touched so far, as I mentioned earlier, is Prop. 13. But you can bet your last dollar, they will find some way to destroy that too. It’s my own firm belief that will be the last straw for many people who have tolerated being taxed to death. In fact, the high property taxes back in 1978 was what precipitated the outrage at high property taxes and the inception of Prop. 13 in the first place. They’ve already floated a “trial balloon” of eliminating it for businesses to see the public reaction. I’m sorry to say that the sheep (that’s most Californians) weren’t spooked, so expect to hear more of this in the next couple of years. There’s no way in the world they’ll have enough money for all their pet illegal projects without eliminating Prop. 13. Remember my comments when you start hearing more about this. They want to give “free” (for them) medical care to ALL illegals, and the only way that can happen is to get more money from taxes. All in all, a pretty grim diagnosis for anyone staying here in CA.

  9. John,

    I am making an effort to fully understand the reality here.
    And I find your commentary muy sympatico, mostly. A few
    points then I will retreat to my cave.

    1. The Democrats are in full and total control of California
    policies. Apparently, Federal law is like a buffet for them,
    they can pick and choose what they like — including the US
    Constitution. Wouldn’t be surprised if California starts
    issuing its own passports!

    2. The PG&E “Public Safety Power Shutoffs” are real. Part of
    the PG&E giveaway. Reduce risk to profits (and jail). Newsom
    has received tons of money from PG&E and now proposes to
    give them $10 billion to pay for wildfires. Check out the
    Manteca Bulletin to find out what Manteca is doing to
    prepare. Mandatory curfews are on the table because looting.

    3. I am just one person in the People’s Republic of
    California. If they want open borders and sanctuary, and
    free stuff for all, well, that is what we’re doing. The
    needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few — except on
    Mondays, Wednesdays and Friday, when the needs of the rich
    and powerful are given due consideration. I’ve decided to
    accept this reality (for now). Open borders? OK, fine. I’m
    sure the socialists will be happy to learn that I have
    written to two Russian newspapers and invited all of Russia
    to move to California. It will be great!

    4. You mentioned moving to Nevada or Texas. I don’t like
    their weather. Washington and Oregon do not appeal either.
    If I were younger I would think about Alaska. And I do have
    one person in California I have an obligation to. So I will
    stay and enjoy the show. You should think about staying too,
    just to annoy them.

  10. Marc,
    I agree with all your points too. Thanks for the thoughtful input, especially about the Democrats picking and choosing what laws they feel like ignoring/enforcing. Don’t worry, they won’t have any problem enforcing the so-called “Individual Mandate” law on you and me! Other laws they don’t like, well hey, they’ll just ignore those. They have their 9th Circus Court to back them up on anything they do, even though they’ve been overruled often when a case is appealed to the SC. They already have a de facto passport called a California Drivers License, issued to anyone (including millions of Illegal Invaders) who feel like calling California home. With it, they can get virtually anything, as well as motor-voter registration so they can vote themselves more freebies from our pocket. The corruption and pandering is off-the-charts bad here now. It won’t be long before an Illegal will be running for governor – sounds crazy? Well, giving them drivers licenses would have been unthinkable just 20 years or so ago when Prop 187 passed (only to be promptly torn up and discarded by the 9th Circus).

    I’m in a SoCal Edison area, so I haven’t kept up with everything happening with PG&E, although I was aware, of course, of all the fires and corresponding lawsuits. Doesn’t surprise me that NewScum got his pockets lined by them. Corruption is the order of the day here, and will continue as long as the DemoRats remain the majority in power.
    I like your idea of inviting Russians to come, we could use some to offset the quantity and type of invaders we have here now. Unfortunately, we don’t share a common border (or continent) so it’s not so easy for them to get here. (yes, I know you meant that toungue-in-cheek) 🙂

    Well, you can probably guess that I’m not too crazy about wanting to live in TX, FL, or NV. The only thing that attracts me to live in one of them is the lack of state income tax. The weather in all of them isn’t so great (I’ve lived in FL – so damp! – and NV – so dry! – in the past already) but I think if I could make it for at least two or three years there, perhaps the insanity here will have had time to collapse. Wishful thinking, maybe. You’re probably right that staying here would annoy them, but the problem is, they’re already annoying me more than I can bear! And you can be sure the insanity won’t stop here, NewScum is just getting started, he’s got lots of great ideas for separating us from our money. I haven’t actually made concrete plans to leave just yet, but I’m already mentally preparing myself for it. Browsing homes for sale on Redfin in Henderson and L.V. shows quite a few in the low $300K range in very good neighborhoods (i.e., Summerlin) near shopping and freeways. My home here in CA would sell for around $750 – $850K so I’d pocket quite a bit of cash, could pay for a home in Vegas and have lots of cash left over. Decisions, decisions.

    1. Following your conversation, my wife and I want to buy a home , first time for us ( together) but I am really worried about putting down roots in California. I’m seriously considering going back to TX. but Cali is her home and she really wants to stay here. Paying the incredibly expensive fee ( 2500) for an out of state vehicle was my first clue to how things work in Cali…decisions,decisions indeed.

      1. Phil, If I were you today, I would probably go back to TX if it were possible and I didn’t own property here. It’s only going to get worse from this point forward, and I would be the first to warn you if I knew you personally as a friend (and even on here, where we are thinking the same). I do understand why you wife wants to stay here (mine does too) but you have to make a decision that’s best for both of you. Run, don’t walk away from CA!

  11. John,

    I will just throw this out for your consideration. It is
    none of my business and you’re obviously very savvy. But
    let’s say I know a guy who is a real estate genius. He
    probably would not make exactly the same transaction you are
    proposing because taxes. And I too am opposed to feeding the
    beast with taxes that can be legally avoided (I don’t want
    to pay taxes any more, ever, especially to California.)

    In addition to taxes there is the question of what value a
    currency unit maintains in the future. Where is a good store
    of value?

    Much depends on goals and preferences of course, but in the
    end most people agree that more is better.

    So, one thing this hypothetical guy did sometime, somewhere,
    in some universe, is sell his apartment complex and then buy
    a medical building in a different state with a price greater
    than his apartment sales price. No taxes, long term lease
    providing income forever.

    Another thing this guy (always) does is buying something he can rent
    out where the cash flow fully covers his costs. Then he just
    lets it ride, forever. Maybe takes a small equity loan, tax
    deductible, and uses that for something else. The point here
    is leverage and riding out currency devaluations. Rich
    people seems to love borrowing long term at a fixed rate and
    then paying back the debt years later in inflated currency
    units.

    It may make sense to hire an expert for consultations,
    that’s all I’m really saying. Because, as it is written,
    “Never F*** Up”. No do-overs.

  12. Good Luck Cali. I just left for Austin. I was making great money and living DTLA (Los Angeles). Paying 3k a month for rent, stepping over homeless, needles and trash as walked the streets of LA to visit bars/restaurants. I payed an average of 3.90 for gas if not higher along the coast. Every thing I purchased in LA county, near 10% sales tax. Shopping at Ralphs or Whole Foods paying 3x that for food than most other states. Playing in Manhattan beach, Venice, Malibu, Newport, all the while sitting in hours of traffic. Paying more than 10% in state tax to bring fed and state holdings to over 35% of my income. Making far more than the average person in Los Angeles County but not able to afford decent RE. I enjoyed the weather, Mountains, ocean, Desert, all the while watching the 6 figure plus income potential (Job Market dwindle). Flew to San Francisco often for weekend get a-ways visiting friends who make 200k or a little north of that, hearing their struggles and lack of ability to by decent RE.

    All this with a short 2 years living in Cali. And yet, the locals vote and continue to vote Democratic Socialist into power, with the OC flipping 100% to the Democratic Socialist. California is lost. Good luck to those making under a half a million a year. Hope is works out for you.

  13. When the national individual mandate went into effect I made the decision to invoke my right to refuse any and all medical care up to and including my own demise. I have sworn an oath that I will never again seek any medical care that will be paid for by any greedy, big corporate insurance company, nor will I seek any care that is paid for by a corrupt and completely inept government. With that said, I am not your public burden and you have no legal ground to stand on to force me to pay for a service that, by my refusal to use it, has absolutely zero value and offers me a maximum of a 0% return on my investment. I simply want the right to put my own money into a HSA and pay my doctor cash. You can’t make healthcare any cheaper than that.
    And if my neighbor wants to have fake boob implants then I won’t have to worry that he spent my money to do that. If some idiot wastes all of their own money on completely unnecessary cosmetic surgeries and do has no money left when they break their arm that shouldn’t be my problem.
    I don’t want to have to work and slave my entire life away trying to make enough money to pay for a service that’s supposed to keep me alive so that I can live to be old and grey and wrinkled and used up … and dying anyway, looking back on a life that I didn’t get a chance to actually LIVE a day of it and wonder, “What in the HELL was that all about?”.
    Some people are willing to give their own lives in the struggle to remain free. Others would enslave an entire nation and every following generation just to buy themselves one more day of their own miserable lives.

    1. Stephen, because you have a sense of personal responsibility, something that is severely lacking these days. I have the means to do the same as you, but we won’t be allowed to do that, since they have determined that they want the illegals to have free medical care using our dollars directly. On what planet is this a sane, just policy? This is now upside-down backwards world where the lazy and incompetent are given a free ride on others who have planned, worked and saved. The greedy politicians are out for our wallets, and our blood, sweat and tears. I say NO to that also! I refuse, and I will vote with my feet by leaving here as soon as practical. I sincerely suggest you do the same, for your own health, welfare and sanity.

  14. Stephen/ John:
    I have been uninsured now for 4 years and have been a cash pay for all medical services. I’ve had the opportunity to see first hand how corrupt the insurance and medical systems are. Example, I had to have an MRI, cash pay was $575. A few weeks later I received a bill from the medical facility that did the MRI for me. I don’t remember the exact amount but the bill was for OVER $2300. When I called them to question it, they told me that was for my insurance company. I told them I was a cash pay patient and after a few clicks on her keyboard she replied “Ok, you can just disregard it then”. What?? I pay $575 as cash patient but you will my insurance company $2300 for the same procedure. Unbelievable. I’m on the hunt for Texas, Tennessee, maybe Tallahassee FL, you can get a pretty nice house in either place for $200-250K.

    1. Carol Ann,
      Thanks for your comments. I’m still waiting at the moment to find out more details about what the commies in Sacramento are foisting upon us, so far there’s been very little available. Specifically, I’m waiting to see what exemptions might be allowed to opt out of this debacle. When my mom died a few years ago (2013) I was very sad, however, one good thing came out of that – Oblamocare allowed those with a death in the family to have an exemption from paying the penalty for up to 4 years. That allowed me to bypass the entire nonsense, I just had to send in a copy of her death certificate every year to get an exemption. I have seen no such allowance so far with the state. If I cannot find any exemption, I will be moving out of the state one way or the other by late Dec. to ensure that I will not be a legal resident of the state for 2020.

      It’s laughable that they think people will just pay this unconstitutional and illegal penalty and sit still and take it. I’m quite sure at this point in time, most people in our situation are unaware of what is coming in January – which by then, will be too late to take action for the 2020 year. They’ve done nothing to rein in healthcare costs, and instead have done just the opposite – giving “free” healthcare to illegal invaders who have no right to even be present in the country. And they expect us to pay for it, in the form of a penalty! I hope this entire law collapses upon itself and crashes the system they have so aggressively foisted on Californians.

      The nerve, the chutzpah of the Democrats has no end. Instead of fixing things, they’ve taken a broken system and making it far worse. They will fail in the end, but that doesn’t do US any good right now. Therefore, you need to have Plan “A” and Plan “B” ready in the next couple of months.

      I can tell you, since I’ve lived there for years, FL isn’t the greatest place to be. I can’t speak about TX or TN, although I lived in Memphis as a child, I don’t remember much about it other than good BBQ (LOL). FL is very humid, so you can expect to run the A/C pretty much 24 hrs a day from about April to October. The winter is the only pleasant time in FL. I’ve lived mostly in Tampa, St. Pete, and Sarasota areas back in the 60s and 70s. The biggest draw are the beaches, the biggest negative are bugs and humidity. That’s pretty much why I’m considering NV. I lived in Las Vegas in 2002 – 2003 and it wasn’t so bad, the heat didn’t bother me too much but the dryness was pretty bad. If I move back there, I’ll get a humidifier to go along with the A/C to add some moisture to the inside air. I’m also considering a house with a pool, only to have something to jump into to get away from the heat instantly.

      I’ve seen many homes for sale in Summerlin (nice area of LV) and the like for the high 300s – low 400s range, which, while not cheap, is much lower than CA prices for similar homes in nice areas. The biggest reason why NV and not FL or TX, is ease of moving. Less distance so less cost, and can visit friends in CA when you feel like it. Sure, it’s not ideal, but they’ve not given me any choice other than to leave. As I mentioned above, this won’t end here – they are itching to raise taxes and you can have no doubt that they will do so. They will never look at cutting expenditures, as they see us having a limitless capacity to pay for their mandates to support an illegal population. Plan accordingly.

  15. I am 56 years old make around only 30 to 40 k my health insurance for me and my 11 year old daughter every 2 weeks is 652 $ my wife pays 150 every 2 weeks I’m dropping my health care insurance and If I get sick or my daughter I’m walking into the Emergency room and seek medical assistant anyways I have lived in Cal my whole life at work the HR Dept never told our employees about Newsome mandatory new tax laws unbelievable, thank God Jesus is coming soon ever great country has fallen by the 4 generation from sin so have we God have mercy on America

  16. I am so outraged and offended that Newsome thinks it’s so important to give illegals healthcare. What about me, a citizen (no that’s not a dirty word) who has lived and worked and payed taxes in CA for 35 years and can’t afford insurance. Yeah, sure, let’s take more of my tax dollars and give healthcare to people who shouldn’t even be here. Talk about adding insult to injury. And tomorrow our wonderful, honest, concerned politicians are voting on whether they will cancel the road repair projects that were promised to voters in the TRANSNET sales tax hike in 2004 and transfer all the funds to bus and bike programs. Bus and bike programs, are you kidding me??? And, they want to propose an additional Sales Tax hike and a Congestion Tax on top of that! Remember all those ads they ran showing firemen and first responders saying how important it was to fix our roads to keep us all safer? Just another Democrat scam. Shame on all of them.

  17. Scott, I’m sorry to hear about the ridiculous amount you are paying every 2 weeks ($652), that is just plain outrageous. I don’t know how anyone can pay that kind of money for “insurance”. It would be far cheaper, as you say, to just walk in to an ER and get treatment. Tell them you’re here illegally, how can they send you a bill? Why do I get the feeling that’s exactly what a lot of Hispanic people do, even when they’re here legally – just say they are illegal and have no income. They won’t even question them, since it’s assumed that anyone from Mexico or further south is probably not legal. Much harder to convince them of that when you’re white or black. Also, as I said (and you mentioned) most people in our position (lower income, no insurance) are not aware of what’s coming on Jan 1 of next year, and it’s going to be quite a shock for them when they get a $695 per person fine (or 2.5% of whatever their income is, which could be a much higher fine). They passed this law with ZERO public comment and input. They just do whatever they please, they think we’re stupid tax donkeys that they can overburden forever.

    Carol, I’ve lived and paid taxes in CA for over 40 years now. I paid into SS, Medicare, CASDI, and every other program over the years while receiving zero benefit from any of it, other than my paycheck being considerably lighter every week. I am retired now, living on a fixed income and can’t afford the kind of payment that Scott mentions, I’d be broke overnight. I have enough to pay bills and have food to eat – I’m not on any form of gov’t benefits (too young for SS and Medicare) and pay my own way for everything. I don’t expect the government to pay for me, and I don’t expect to pay to support freeloaders, especially ones that shouldn’t even be in this country in the first place!

    As for the Gas Tax they imposed last July, that went up again a few days ago, I haven’t seen even one road being repaired around here. Maybe something is being repaired somewhere, but not in my area. You know all those extra billions of $$ are going into the general fund, where they will spend it as they please. And the gas tax will keep going up forever, every July 1. That’s already been written into law, BTW. Just another Demonrat scam, as you said, from NewScum (or NewScam, if you prefer).

    I’m still looking at houses in Las Vegas, as time goes by quickly and I need to have some escape plan formulated and ready. January will be here before we know it, and they we are trapped. I’m just plain sick about this, and haven’t slept well since I first heard about it, but I have to deal with reality and do something other than just sit and take it. I won’t be able to relax until I know I have dealt with this and have a way to protect myself from the thieves in Sacramento. Moving out of state, permanently, is the only way to escape the insane asylum that California has become.

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