Has California Secretary of State Shirley Weber has invented a “print-your-own ballot from home” program just in time for the September 14th recall election of Gov. Gavin Newsom? Or has this program been around but not promoted – until now?
The Globe received a tip from a source about the Remote Accessible Vote by Mail (RAVBM) system.
It turns out this Remote Accessible Vote by Mail (RAVBM) system, which appears to have been created for the November 3, 2020 General Election, allows voters to mark their selections using their own compatible technology to vote independently and privately in the comfort of their own home. It appears to be a published but not menu-listed page. Are they hiding it on purpose?
And how many ballots in the 2020 General Election were cast using these make-your-own ballots?
Here are more details from the SOS page:
How to Request RAVBM
A voter can request a RAVBM when they review their information on My Voter Status or by contacting their County Elections Office by phone, mail or email or by going to their County Elections Office website for more information.
How to Use RAVBM
A voter using RAVBM:
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- Downloads the application to mark their selections,
- Marks their selections for each contest using their compatible technology, on their computer or tablet,
- Prints and returns their marked selections by mail using the postage paid envelope included with their vote by mail ballot or using their own envelope which would require postage. The return envelope used in any instance, must have the voter’s signature on the outside of the envelope. The voter can also return their selections in person to a voting location, drop box, or their County Elections Office. A voter cannot submit their selections online. It must be mailed or returned in person.
The vote-by-mail envelope being mailed to all Californian’s, includes punched holes that will help guide visually impaired voters where the signature is needed. However, if a voter is using their own envelope, they can sign anywhere on the outside of the envelope.
The Secretary of State’s Office currently has four certified RAVBM systems:
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- Five Cedars Group Alternate Format Ballot v5.2.1
- Democracy Live Secure Select 1.2.2
- Dominion Voting Systems Dominion ImageCast Remote 5.10A
- Los Angeles County Voting Solution for All People Interactive Sample Ballot 2.5
Patty Murray at Gateway Pundit asks a good question: “So, how does California prevent ballots that are printed at home from bleeding through flimsy printing paper? The answer—they don’t.”
Well, there are a few more questions that need to be asked:
Can you print out more than one ballot? How are these verified and by whom? Why can’t these ballots be dropped off? Why must they be mailed?
What could possibly go wrong?
Did California invent an audit-proof way to steal elections?
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And here we have it.
The end of election integrity in California.
I hear you, Full Stop, but not so fast. There has to be a way of knocking this out, especially since ---- just for starters ---- there is not even a sliver of a need for allowing "All Voters" to print this thing out, not to mention that --- as Katy Grimes has pointed out --- it "appears to be a published but not menu-listed page." Sounds like it is being hidden now and was once added under the radar to me! And who --- or what --- is behind this thing to begin with? It was available for Nov 2020? Does that mean it was added at or around the time the state was locked down --- and everyone distracted ---- because of wildly exaggerated 'death-by-COVID concerns?' Was it the fine handiwork of now U.S. Senator Alex Padilla, Secty of State at the time this might have been slipped in? Was it passed by the legislature or was it part of the dozens of Gruesome executive orders under "emergency powers" which, by the way, he still inexplicably holds as we speak 18 months later?
What's more, this is not the only dicey voting law that looks illegal to the naked eye of all sensible voters but has since been legalized; e.g., ballot harvesting, registering and voting in more than one precinct, same-day registration and voting, (over-)use of provisional voting cards ---- not to mention decades-worth of swollen voter rolls and dead people voting, by-mail ballots sent en masse to one residential address or to one P.O. box, and God only knows what else that doesn't immediately come to mind.
We cannot have this. It must stop. There must be a way to sue to stop this before the upcoming Recall election. We deserve a clean election so that we can know on September 14 --- and not two months later, by the way ---- whether the will of the People of California is to remove Gavin Newsom from office!
Look at the version numbers on those 4. They've been in the works for some time.
The next obvious step is Vot-By-Phone: "Press 1 to vote for ..."
But nobody asks about the obvious racist thing: how about all us po' folks who don't have them fancy computers?
And after that it'll be vote by opt-out.
"we have voted for you, if you would like to choose who you vote for, simply fill out the form located at (insert government building address located the furthest away from voter). Please note, the office distributing these forms is open only from 8-am to 9-am on alternating Tuesdays.
Wow... California Marxists [ Democrats ] will destroy our State.... not by incompetence, but by design.
Do you have any evidence of those fraudulent claims you make? I am sure you can provide a link to a reputable source of all this voter fraud.
GOD SHES UGLY
Has anyone ever purchased a pro baseball ticket? Printed them out? You do know you can print out a thousand tickets to the stadium. But here’s the deal, only the person that purchased the ticket will get to print the ticket with their ticket barcode. As soon as it’s “used”no other tickets will be accepted in the computer system - use only once tickets.
Why is it so hard for people to understand that only registered voters will be able to print the ballot with their own barcode and only one ballot can be valid - any others will be rejected. Is it that hard to understand without all these bogus conspiracy theories??
Simple Bill, we know that certain districts in the 2020 election over-voted. There were far more votes than there were registered voters.
How is that possible Bill? Because democrats CHEAT. The people that COUNT the votes decide who wins, not the voters. And right now, Democrats control California.
Can you give us a link to those over vote counties, or are you believing lies people tell you? If someone lies and lies again, do you ever believe them?
In this article we embedded the list of counties which have more registered voters than eligible citizens:
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/bombshell-california-has-1-8m-more-registered-voters-than-it-should/
and this article which found 458,000 likely dead or relocated persons to be mailed ballots; 24,000 will be mailed two or more ballots:
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/updated-458000-dead-persons-could-be-mailed-ballots-if-ca-goes-all-mail-in-nov-2020-election/
Are you a Democrat who wants to promote by any means the continued illegitimate voting to circumvent the body politic ?
SOS Office: 1.8 million invalid voter registrations? Time for a new high score. Hold my chai tea latte...
For fuck’s sake, you can already print out tickets for everything from concerts to Disneyland, and stamps for the US mail. If you guys don’t know the technology by now quit being fear mongers.
I think you comments express everything we need to know...you compared purchasing Disneyland tickets with voting.
Agree @Owednothing, if we are to compare the convenience factor of printing concert tickets to ballot printing and not understand the meaning of voter integrity then all is lost, why even bother with the illusion of a free and fair election?
@Yrag, some would argue using the F word is a sign of intelligence, in your case I would say not! I hope you come to understand what is at stake.
Thanks CaliGirl for saying what I wanted to say but in a nice way! Fuck Yea!
Now that Stacy is intelligence ????
Hah hah!! Excellent reply! I'm still chuckling.
The print it yourself ticket to disneyland has a unique code identifying it with the purchase, and checked into a database when the ticket is used. Make multiple copies and try to use them and you'll get caught. Can't do that with ballots.
And not only that, due to the sale of multiple day tickets by 3rd party scammers, Disneyland takes a picture of you when you first use your "print yourself ticket". If your picture doesn't match when you try to enter again on a multi day pass, you don't get in. But..............................no voter ID because according to Democrats, Black and Brown people are so oppressed and stupid that they can not figure out how to get a drivers license. What an insult to Black and Brown people, but they still vote Democrat. SMDH! Now that is probably why the Democrats know they are stupid! Oh well. If the shoe fits.........................
The mail in envelopes use the same technology. Make your own envelope in this new method must have some version of the same thing. I will vote this way next election to see.
Your crassly worded, and poorly chosen comparison indicates the simplicity of your logic and (lack of) reasoning ability...
Casting a vote to elect or recall a state's Governor is not equivalent to buying a concert ticket or going to Disneyland...
That you haven't made that discernment on your own is deeply troubling...
You're absolutely wrong
And no one ever prints out anything phony FFS do they ?
Uh Yrag Nelson, how many counterfeit concert Tix are printed for each event?
The print it yourself ticket to disneyland has a unique code identifying it with the purchase, and checked into a database when the ticket is used. Make multiple copies and try to use them and you'll get caught. Can't do that with ballots.
It’s like these people have never heard of bar codes. Print one in the ballot and there you have it - a ballot that can’t be duplicated.
For fuck's sake, if you don't realize how democrats cheat by now, quit posting your nonsense.
All valid questions Katy, and yes what could possibly go wrong with this new avenue of cheat…I mean voting?
The RVBM page is not out in the open, you had to be patient and poke around to find it.
Thank you for letting us know that it has been in place since last November, I find that quite disturbing news.
Let us all acknowledge that we have not and will not have free and fair elections. We don't even have what fellow reader/contributor Showandtell coined, "Fair Enough" elections. We all knowledge there is 1.8 million illegal voters in California's electorate. We now must acknowledge that our SOS of state Shirley Weber is nefarious creature for implementing RAVBM. There is no other reason for RAVBM other than to corrupt elections...all elections. This is being tested and refined in California to be imposed on the rest of the Country. Damn these demoncrats. As Fed Up With Governor Frat Boy stated above, if Newsom survives, it will only be do to a record high votes from an un-auditable ballots. We will come to a point where we must acknowledge only a fool believes voting is a tool for peaceful change.
You know what, Owed Nothing? You're right. We all need to acknowledge that there will always be cheating by the skunks who want to cheat. This latest is definitely not the only problem, it is one of many. And I sure as hell don't want my own screeds to dampen voter participation. So here is the bottom line: If everyone who wants Gavin Gone votes YES on Recall Newsom it will be SUCH A BLOWOUT that the cheaters won't possibly be able to make up the difference. Let's follow the adage "if it's not close they can't cheat," and really now, how can it be close? The will to remove Newsom has been building since he was installed. He has been responsible for HORRENDOUS circumstances for Californians of every stripe since the beginning of his 'reign.' And let's never forget that a hefty proportion of Democrats want him GONE, Independents want him GONE, Libertarians want him GONE, and Republicans want him GONE. That's a lot of people from everywhere who want him GONE.
Showandtell, your thoughts do give many of us hope and inspiration that our collective outrage is commonplace and will result in the recall of Newsom. I am enthused vote for the recall of Newsom and will be voting for Larry Elder. I do hope our united energy will translate into an overwhelming vote to recall Newsom that cannot be overturned by corruption of our political system.
Owed Nothing, you're the BEST. If I knew who you were and saw you on the street, I'd shake your hand, COVID be damned. :)
I've been personally involved in many campaigns and whether one is giddy and enthusiastic about a potential win or more pragmatic than that, a loss hurts and deflates either way. So I say let's get out there like professionals and start the anti-Gruesome trash-talking and the rest. We're righteously angry, let's make the argument! It's a psych game now and a get-out-the-vote game now.
I should have added before that in the 2020 election ---- WITH this and other rigging in place, by the way --- we did flip a number of congressional seats from blue to red and won a number of "conservative" (a.k.a. "sensible") statewide ballot propositions, too. So it can be done. They were apparently unable to make up the difference, even with all their tricks. And that was in a partisan election, Dem voting for Dem, Repub voting for Repub, with rare exceptions.
In this special recall election we have an amazing coalition of Dems, NPP, Libertarians, and Repubs. It's a rare event to have such a coalition and the animosity against Gruesome is HIGH. And strong. And determined. To get him OUT, OUT, OUT. And we have two terrific candidates waiting in the wings. I will be voting for one of them.
I think we can do it, but if we don't, at least no one can say we didn't try. That's not nothing, in the scheme of things. It's a LOT.
Hey, can I get the equivalent for a CDC "jab" card?
I'll swear that I took Dr. Fauci's snake-oil, and you can send me the vax card.
Same concept. Sweet!
Great point Greg. Great point. What is the use of being a registered voter if anyone can print, mail in a used envelope with a random signature anywhere on the envelope. Real secure voting system. I am so disgusted with all of this. @Yrag will be printing 1000 ballots when he is sitting on his couch dreaming of going to a concert or Disneyland after his next unemployment check comes so we can support his leisure time. The new American dream!
Yikes, hope there are not a lot of Yrags around.
A new type of useful idiot, typing and printing their way to tyranny.
Your own article says that the RAVBM can be dropped off in person and does not require mailing. This doesn't sound like a conspiracy of any kind. It's a way to make VBM accessible to the vision impaired, the inaccessibility of which is one of the main criticisms of an all VBM voting system because polling places have accessible technology. This is a really weird thing to foster conspiracy theories about.
@ShannonB
Sure it is. What a ridiculous comment.
I have to add, all this is from an "appointed" unelected crooked official. Appointed by our one and only Gavin. Probably the only intelligent move he made knowing of his recall effort at the time! The same crooked person who tried to erase Larry Elder off the ballot. Sure we can trust her just as much as Fauci. Money can buy lots of things, including an election. Thank you Katy Grimes and Edward Ring for keeping us informed and educated.
Might as well just let Facebook take polls and count them as votes going forward. Will result in the same outcome.. #clownworld
Here is the Test Report on the source code review for Democracy Live Secure Select RAVBMS; one of the vendors listed by the SOS website. Note the "Vulnerabilities" section on Page 8 of the report:
https://votingsystems.cdn.sos.ca.gov/vendors/demlive/sli-dl-source-code.pdf
The idea that these systems provide for "secure" and "transparent" voting and data management using the cloud (internet) is nonsense.
Thanks for posting Raymond. So their test resulted in what they expected. However, did they test for garbage ballots?
You know the saying, garbage in, garbage out!