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Citizen Video Questions Legality of Newsom’s C-19 Emergency

Newsom found a convenient loophole that does not require him to justify the criteria of an epidemic

By Wayne Lusvardi, May 21, 2020 6:06 am

Gov. Newsom’s C-19 Emergency Order intentionally avoided state criteria for declaring an epidemic. But, nonetheless, California’s coronavirus outbreak does not meet that criteria. 

A video has been circulating on the Internet since May 6 by Orange County resident Peggy Hall claiming that Gov. Newsom’s emergency orders regarding the so-called coronavirus epidemic do not meet the criteria of an epidemic under state law.

Moreover, Hall claims that since the coronavirus-19 outbreak does not meet these criteria she believes the emergency order is no longer effective.  

The video had 105,243 views as of May 6.  And recently the video has started to go viral across the Internet without comment and correction – see here.

Hall explicitly states she is not a lawyer only a citizen.  And, she erroneously states that according to law “we don’t have to stay home” and “businesses and schools do not need to remain closed.” 

What Hall failed to recognize is that Newsom’s Emergency Proclamation suspended the law she cited (California Emergency Services Act 2015, Section 8558 [b]), which provides criteria by which to declare an epidemic (see Proclamation here).

Gov. Newsom’s Proclamation invoked Section 8571 of the California Government Code, enacted in 1943 during the war with Japan, which deals with a “state of war emergency” or an unspecified “state of emergency” – as captioned below:

Government Code 8571 – During a state of war emergency or a state of emergency the Governor may suspend any regulatory statute, or statute prescribing the procedure for conduct of state business, or the orders, rules, or regulations of any state agency….where the Governor determines and declares that strict compliance with any statute, order, rule, or regulation would in any way prevent, hinder, or delay the mitigation of the effects of the emergency.

The legal website JDSupra clarifies that Government Code Section 8571 apparently gives a governor carte blanche (complete freedom) to act as they see fit:

While broad, this statute does not endow the Governor with the power to suspend all (non-regulatory) laws…he or she may only suspend a “regulatory statute” or a “statute prescribing the procedure for the conduct of state business”.  One problem is that the statute does not define what is meant by a “regulatory statute”.   The Governor’s authority to suspend regulations of state agencies does not appear to be so limited”. 

Questionable Epidemic Level of Deaths

According to the state law governing declarations of epidemics (under the California Emergency Services Act), which Newsom suspended, the criteria for an epidemic is that it must “likely” overwhelm” local emergency response capacities.

“California Emergency Services Act 8558:(c) ‘Local emergency’ means the duly proclaimed existence of conditions of disaster or of extreme peril to the safety of persons and property within the territorial limits of a county, city and county, or city, caused by conditions such as….epidemic….which are or are likely to be beyond the control of the services, personnel, equipment, and facilities of that political subdivision and require the combined forces of other political subdivisions to combat…”

Hall points out that the number of deaths from coronavirus in Orange County and California as of May 6 were:

Orange County
Coronavirus Deaths – 38

Seasonal Flue Deaths – 600

California

Coronavirus Deaths – 2,000

Seasonal Flu Deaths – 6,000
(Source: California Department of Health as of May 6)

The key term used above is “likely” to be beyond local capacities. Hall makes a case that it was “likely” that Orange County and the state had the capacity to handle the coronavirus “outbreak” and thus there is no “epidemic.” 

Hall asserts that for a virus outbreak to be declared an epidemic under state law it must be “beyond the normal range” of average annual deaths.  However, it is not deaths but hospitalizations that would overwhelm the health system. Even if hospital cases, not deaths, are used as a measure, the coronavirus would not be anticipated to overwhelm the medical system.  Artificially clearing out hospitals for exclusive use only by coronavirus patients does not prove the system was overwhelmed.

Relevant statistics as of May 20 do not bear out that hospitals are overwhelmed, especially in Orange County:

Total State Hospital Beds 98,416 (link)

C-19 Total State Cases: 84,057 (link)

C-19 Total State Hospitalizations: 4,115 (link)

C-19 Total State Deaths: 3,436 (link)

Total Beds LA County: 27,479 (link); Hospitalizations: 5,966; Deaths 1,834
Total Beds Santa Clara County: 3,825(link): Current Hospitalizations: 79; Deaths; 138

Total Beds Orange County: 7,689 (link): Current Hospitalizations: 253; Deaths: 98

By invoking an epidemic emergency under Government Code 8571, intended to be used in wartime, Gov. Newsom found a convenient loophole that does not require him to justify the criteria of an epidemic.  Newsom asserted that the capacity of emergency response services were expected to be overwhelmed by the virus.  But that has not been the case.

Peggy Hall may have gotten the law wrong that Gov. Newsom relied on in declaring an emergency. But she is apparently right that, so far, the coronavirus has not overwhelmed the likely capacity of local emergency services and is not an epidemic under state law.

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18 thoughts on “Citizen Video Questions Legality of Newsom’s C-19 Emergency

  1. So what can we do to end this given the coronavirus has not overwhelmed the capacity of local emergency services and is not an epidemic under state law. How do we close the loophole and get out from under Newsom’s unfounded control?

    1. Be the ‘voice’ we all need to be.
      Ms. Hall has other videos showing how to fight the overtaking of our nation by both the ‘Cartel’..and the WHO/CDC..
      All Americans have to do is stand up to this insurrection and tell our ‘elected..haha’
      “NO”…
      Send your concerns to all on your facebook and or social media
      We only have a tiny window of opportunity to stop this mental/ social control over the masses. Too many are already convinced the death from this FLU is teal…
      Be brave..ACT..discuss..now…

  2. The Wuhan Virus reaction has revealed how fragile our liberties are. It reveals how citizens can easily be controlled when falsely told it is the law! It reminds me of when a parent is trying to control a situation and the child questions why. How many of us have fallen back on the tried and true, “…because I said so” .
    Newsom and many lawmakers have good lawyers to find those loopholes and exploit them.

    What we as Californian citizens need to do, is vote in people who can represent our interests. If you are of the libertarian, conservative mindset , or just want to earn a living regardless of whether you vote (D) or (R) or everything in between, we need to end the supermajority! We need balance! VOTE YOUR VALUES not your political affiliation or what your union tells you!

    Educate the young voters on constitutional rights.

    If Californians dislike the current events in San Francisco that Mr. Newsom and his likeminded staff and politicians had a hand in, then get ready for it to happen in your city. As they say sh@t rolls down hill and we are not talking about the “dog poo on the shoe” Aunt Nancy refers to.
    My suggestion is only a starting point. We have a very big uphill battle, but it can be a start!

    Ask your current senators and assembly members where they stand. They were sheltering in place when Newsom enacted the emergency resolution. A new emergency resolution needs to be drafted without loopholes!

    Peggy Hall has done a great service to alert people to the resolution.

  3. I wonder if this has ever been litigated. It reads as if this is just for conducting of state business.
    How does that get imposed on the citizens ?
    ——

    IGovernment Code 8571 – During a state of war emergency or a state of emergency the Governor may suspend any regulatory statute, or statute prescribing the procedure for conduct of state business, or the orders, rules, or regulations of any state agency….where the Governor determines and declares that strict compliance with any statute, order, rule, or regulation would in any way prevent, hinder, or delay the mitigation of the effects of the emergency.

    and

    1. I have forwarded your question to an legal foundation for their review. Perhaps they might answer.

    2. Exactly!!! This Peggy Hall is no expert – she teaches yoga and metaphysical health! She is not qualified to represent anything! Her videos have gone viral thanks to right-wing morons who want the bars opened!

      1. Yet she took the time to educate herself on the laws..and posting them for anyone’s benefit..including yours.
        Either we want our ‘Liberty’ intact and unrestrained..or we want no freedoms at all.
        Now is the time to take a stand.
        Baaaaa

        1. She posted the laws with out the exceptions those laws are voided when a state of emergency is called and once it is called it stays in place until the emergency is no longer a threat. We still
          Are within the definition of emergency half information is as dangerous as false information

      2. Sounds a whole lot more of an expert than you do. It is so obvious that we’re being railroaded the fact stands out like a sore thumb. I am thankful for good citizens like Peggy Hall. And, I honor, am loyal to, and defend our Constitution, which should be being protected by those very public servants (not leaders, they are NOT leaders, they are political science majors who know NOTHING about leadership, or health) who are overstepping their authority and ignoring the Constitution, the supreme law of the land. If all we have is half information then throw the whole Covid legislation, all of it, out the window. We need ALL information before any laws, regulations, codes, or articles, are written or established concerning this lie which is being forced down Americans’ throats. These “sign first, read later” and “pass it without a vote” practices and completely unacceptable. And now, of course, we even have corrupt supreme court judges. You can tell by the decisions they make.

  4. Since Peggy Hall contacted her county and state public health departments for guidance as to the legal authority to enforce martial law, shut down businesses, compel wearing useless masks and staying 6 feet from others, we can only deduce she was misinfomed by government officials. She was apparently directed to laws that are on the books that have been suspended by Gov. Newsom’s emergency order. Hall states that “you just can’t declare a state of emergency because he or she (governor) feels like it”. But that apparently is all it takes, as there is no limit on the governor’s power under Govt. Code 1571. Not even a time limit. So Newsom can make this permanent apparently.

      1. Statutes and codes are law for government. The unincorporated States and Counties and people therein are subject to common law and equity unless operating in commerce (corporate trade) or on the water. As the writer correctly observes, the governor found a “loophole.” The bigger loophole is that of U.S. citizen a form of identity theft. This gift, so graciously presumed upon us by our incorporated Federal “government“ and incorporated state of state federal franchises (reference FTB)) unless rebutted is the source of the vast majority of statutory authority over Americans.

      2. Baaaaaa….
        The tenth amendment does not apply to unauthorized agencies who CANNOT order..mandate..or subject the citizenry through a State’s Governor. Duly elected..I add..
        That includes supposed ‘guidelines’ which happens to be what both the WHO and CDC have ‘proposed’. That’s what a ‘guideline’ is..nothing more than proposals.
        Not enacted LAW.
        Neither the WHO nor the CDC is ‘Congressional’.. And neither is a Governor.
        ‘We, the People’ are still in charge, though we are not exercising that authority.
        The Constitution is still in place..but being pushed aside by usurpers and captive governors..
        We can still turn this around if we will but stand up and act..
        Baaaaa…
        Don’t be a sheep

    1. Isn’t this an ‘elected’ official?…
      You have a voice…you better start using it..
      ……
      Or get ready to wear a health restricting mask for Life with a $500…plus fine attached to it…

  5. Statutes and codes are law for government. The unincorporated States and Counties and people therein are subject to common law and equity unless operating in commerce (corporate trade) or on the water. As the writer correctly observes, the governor found a “loophole.” The bigger loophole is that of U.S. citizen a form of identity theft. This gift, so graciously presumed upon us by our incorporated Federal “government“ and incorporated state of state federal franchises (reference FTB)) unless rebutted is the source of the vast majority of statutory authority over Americans.

  6. Mr. Lusdarvi
    Just a tidbit..
    Florida State has a law..Title XLVI. 876.12
    that states no one in public may wear a mask of any type…
    Who’ s law..or should I ask who’ s in charge when it comes to wearing a mask..?
    And..no I am no lawyer..but an educating citizen..
    The time has come for Americans to know their local laws and object if necessary..
    Can’t let all those protestors have all the fun..
    Now..several counties are enacting their own guidelines with punishments for those non- conformists.. Guidelines with a price tag.
    The CDC is implimenting their own laws without the consent of the people.
    Hope your article is genuine to the protecting of our inalienable rights..among those..Life..”I can’t breathe”..literally..
    Liberty…freedom of thought…movement..conscience..
    To pursuient of whatever is right and true..
    And it isn’t happiness..It was to pursue to posses ownership of Property.
    Thank you..

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