Senator Scott D. Wiener. (Photo: Kevin Sanders for California Globe)
QAnon Targets Democrat Author of Bill to Protect Child Sex Offenders
Bill still allows sex ‘when committed without force, where the minor was a willing participant and under the age of 14’
By Katy Grimes, August 21, 2020 7:46 am
Last year California Globe reported that State Senator Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and Assemblywoman Susan Eggman (D-Stockton) introduced legislation “to end blatant discrimination against LGBT young people regarding California’s sex offender registry.” Wiener and Eggman are members of the California Legislative LGBT Caucus.
However, under their bill, SB 145, the offenders would not have to automatically register as sex offenders if the offenders are within 10 years of age of the minor.
According to Wiener last year: “SB 145 ends blatant discrimination against young people engaged in voluntary sexual activity by providing courts the discretion to decide, at sentencing, if registering the defendant as a sex offenders is appropriate, regardless of the sex act they performed,” bill analysis reported in August 2019.
And then the bill was placed on the suspense file, which means Wiener could not get the bill passed.
However, the bill has been brought back, without any new analysis or new amendments, and was voted on Thursday in the Assembly Appropriations Committee, where it was passed 6-2.
What changed between last August 2019 and August 2020?
Of the 247 comments left on the California Globe, several say Senator Wiener has been targeted by QAnon, the anti-child-sex-trafficking activist group.
Fox 2 KTVU reported:
“Wiener said believers in the conspiracy theory QAnon are accusing him of pushing to let gay men have sex with minors.”
“It started a few weeks ago on Instagram (with) a particular person who is part of the QAnon network, this cult-like pro-Trump network that runs around saying that there’s a big conspiracy to protect pedophiles and that prominent leaders are all pedophiles and it’s a big conspiracy,” he said. “It’s a very delusional kind of cult at this point.”
“They’ve identified this bill and started saying that this is about protecting pedophiles, which it is not, and even saying that I’m a pedophile. This kind of slander, not just against me but against my community, is outrageous, and we have to speak out against it,” he said.
“Currently, if a 14- to 17-year-old and a partner who is less than 10 years older have consensual sex, it is illegal, but the law does not require someone convicted in such a case to register as a sex offender if they had vaginal intercourse; it gives a judge discretion. If the case involves oral or anal intercourse, however, the offender must register.”
Bill analysis is more clear than Sen. Wiener:
“This bill states non-forcible sodomy, oral copulation, and sexual penetration with a minor do not require mandatory sex offender registration unless there is a ten-year gap between the minor and the other person. However, a court may still require registration if it deems appropriate. These offenses, when committed without force, where the minor was a willing participant and under the age of 14 are sometimes referred to as “Hofsheier offenses.” People v. Hofsheier (2006) 37 Cal.4th 1185 held that requiring mandatory sex offender registration for one such an offense – oral copulation – was unconstitutional if the state did not also require registration for a person convicted nonforcible sexual intercourse with a minor because it made an illegal distinction based on the sex act itself.”
NOQ Report said:
“Mainstream media is focused on the threats, but the effort is also shining a spotlight on the details of the bill itself.”
“Democrats are targeting our children. Look at this California legislation they’re trying to sneak through. The LGBTQ community should be outraged that their movement is being used as cover to justify child sex normalization.”
SB 145 bill language says:
SB 145, as amended, Wiener. Sex offenders: registration.
Existing law, the Sex Offender Registration Act, requires a person convicted of one of certain crimes, as specified, to register with law enforcement as a sex offender while residing in California or while attending school or working in California, as specified. A willful failure to register, as required by the act, is a misdemeanor or felony, depending on the underlying offense.
This bill would exempt from mandatory registration under the act a person convicted of certain offenses involving minors if the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor and if that offense is the only one requiring the person to register.
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Scott Wiener is sick! Sick! Sick! Sick!
Omg California’s have lost their minds. I was born and raised there, California was a great place to live but the politics have detroyed it. These people that think this bill is OK They need to rotten h*** Gotta have no mercy for their soul Just sick!!!!!????
I totally agree. For California to allow homosexual deviants to have sex with children is the most disgusting thing they’ve done yet. So glad I moved out of that cesspool five years ago.
This is absolutely discusting and shows we have pedophiles making laws this is B.S. what the hell is going on with mankind
All I can say, is do the math! Within 10 years. So it is okay for a 20 year old to have relations with a minor between the ages of 10 and 14? Even if it were a 27 year old with a 17 year old it is not still considered pedophilia? What the Hell?
This is not about a couple of 16 year olds getting into trouble and then have to register as sex offenders!
No sane society would think this bill protects minors! None!
It passed the committee! Sick
It specifically says ages 14 to 17. So worst case scenario is 14 and 23. Still not ideal, but no, they are not saying 19 year olds can have sex with 10 year olds.
For that matter, it’s not even saying that the sex is legal. It’s saying that if somebody is charged with that offense (so it is an offense) they don’t have to register as a sex offender.
What is the purpose though? Just seems unnecessary… “not ideal”… its more than that
The purpose was supposedly to stop unfairness to homosexuals because if intercourse-vagina & penis- the judge had discretion to not order registration, however if a anal, oral, or other penetration it was automatic registration. So an 18 y/o and his 17 y/o of having sex wouldn’t automatically mandate registration but a 18m with 17m would since it obviously wasn’t vagina penis sex.
Really a 14 year old with a 23 year. That’s sick. How is that ok. It’s not at all.
Read it again. “These offenses, when committed without force, where the minor was a willing participant and under the age of 14 are sometimes referred to as “Hofsheier offenses.” People v. Hofsheier (2006) 37 Cal.4th 1185 held that requiring mandatory sex offender registration for one such an offense – oral copulation – was unconstitutional if the state did not also require registration for a person convicted nonforcible sexual intercourse with a minor because it made an illegal distinction based on the sex act itself.”
So is SB 145 taking away the already established law that sex crimes against minors 14 and under are not applicable via non sex offender registration?
a 23 yr old having sex with a 14 SHOULD register as a sex offender! wtf
What do you think prevents this pervert from amending the age in the law later? This is a push to normalize pedophilia which has always ben the aim of some in the homosexual community
This
God, please judge CA. The COVID shutdown, massive fires for the past 20 years, the bankruptcies, crime,
illegal immigration, high cost of everything, and massive over-regulation, have not been enough.
Apparently
Absolutely right. Once you let this get enacted as law, anything can be added, taken away, or changed, and unless we stop it a door is opened!
Srill stupid regardless of age if you abuse the child you damage the child. Its saying that they dont have ro registered i want to know who lives in the area to protect my kids
But that’s wrong! So if I have a 14 year old and one of these pediphiles lives in my neighborhood I would never know because this law protects them.
I resent that I even have to THINK ABOUT why it is that Sen Scott Wiener and his friends have been unable to accept defeat regarding a depraved bill like this one. Apparently the “special interest groups” they represent have a deranged but fierce desire to fly under the radar undetected as they enlarge their circle of sexual targets, victims, however you want to characterize the vulnerable group of young people that sane adults must ALWAYS seek to protect from mentally unstable but powerful legislators who wish to legalize sick and abusive practices with minor children, all while pretending to protect them.
Exactly Show and Tell,
After I commented here, I contacted my State Senator. I encourage all to email, call write to your State Senator on SB 145!
Yes, absolutely. Thank you Cali Girl!
Find your State Senator:
https://www.senate.ca.gov/senators
This bill will give me my life back, I was 19 and I was with a girl I went to high school with and I got caught on prom night and it has ruined the last 18 years of my life, you can’t live anywhere can’t get a job. This is a second chance for people like my self that got grouped in with this madness.
While I do agree some cases deserve a second look, I don’t believe this is the way to accomplish that.
Basically you want to risk the life of hella innocent children because you fucked up your own? This bill is disgusting and only mentqlly ill people would want this passed.
You’re lying. They don’t make you register as a sex offender for this with other the same age gap of high school. Did she go to the same school but 12 years before you? Romeo and Juliet laws protect that. Nice try though.
Won’t help you at all!! Wait and see…its for The Weiners of the abuse world! Make child rape a dodgeable offense for the “well heeled crowd”
That Guy, I sympathize with you because unfortunately you got bamboozled! Nevertheless this new bill is going to ruin a lot of lives! Your case should be looked at separately and fairly because I’m sure your prom date was 17yrs old. You were treated unfairly point blank!????
This isn’t fair to people like you, I understand that. It happened to my brother as well . He was 19 and. Girl lied to him about her age. They didn’t even have sex, but in the state of Texas..ANY contact with a minor int his case (a hickey) requires lifetime registry as a sex offender. It isn’t fair.
If that is true that’s one thing. High school shit. But this is much farther. This just gives predators a pass. 18 -16 in school I mean that’s mostly at the judges discretion. but 23 and 14. Damn you are a struggling individual if that’s your go to. 23 year old would have a bad day coming around alot father’s 14 year old. Us dads tell our kids we’ll protect them and then shit like this starts. as if 2020 hasn’t done enough
But this allows a 23-year-old to have sex with a 14-year-old. Not a 19-year-old to have sex with a 16-year-old. This bill would protect the madness and expand it.
This bill will give me my life back, I was 19 and I was with a girl I went to high school with and I got caught on prom night and it has ruined the last 18 years of my life, you can’t live anywhere can’t get a job. This is a second chance for people like my self that got grouped in with this madness.
You got that right..it doesn’t stop here, no doubt!!
EXACTLY! These SATANIC people are giving us so much stuff to think about that shouldn’t even be an issue.
I can not wait for Yeshua to return and do His Justice on all these creeps. They better repent or the hottest place in hell is reserved for their souls and they are gonna want to die but they are gonna burn forever… FULLY AWARE.
What if the judge is a pedophile?
Straight or otherwise. Not a good idea.
I agree with u. Any teachers, judges, cops, senators, any higers one can be pedo but cant say point to. And it’s not good idea though
How old is Wiener? What does he have in mind?
These people are so disturbed and disturbing that they are not only not protecting citizens and even more so children, but are creating laws to exploit and abuse them.
I’m starting to believe they are WAY past immoral and have gone straight to amoral. Either way right and wrong doesn’t ever seem to hit their radar, and if it does they ignore it for their own sick desires. They pass these laws as if they are a good thing? Can someone please explain that to me? I guess that possibly they believe the sick behavior of others is ok as long as there is a law that says it’s legal? Is this how their sick minds work? These people are moving towards full-bore depraved and seem to be going full steam ahead to create a new city of sodom for the entire state.
Or maybe this is actually weiner’s lifestyle, and the laws he passes will protect him.
Regardless, this is their view of others and even worse children. But then how much love and humanity can you expect from people who slaughter the unborn at will and completely ignore it. Human life or any kind means NOTHING to these evil monsters.
They’re probably on Ebsteins list!!!
The guy looks like a pervert.
Hey, type up a one page handout to put on porches in your neighborhood. Most people don’t even know that this crap exists. Wake them up!! We need more good actions by good people!!
California Globe needs to be on Parler. I think Twitter blocks your content.
This should go out to the people to vote on. Wiener has a sick mind that cannot be fixed. His mind is immoral. If someone is 8 and the other person is 18 and rapes that child they are not required to register no no way…he has out children at risk.
I will be moving due to these sick minded politicians in California..
The number of idiots that can’t read and shouldn’t be allowed to vote amaze me. What part of rape is non-forcible, J? And, existing law states that consensual intercourse isn’t required to register (judge’s discretion) even between an 8 and 18 year old – so does anyone have a problem with the existing law, or do you all think that’s fine?
Perhaps changing existing law to have a lower age limit would be a good idea, but that is a different fight, and one where your collective outrage may be justified.
This is the dumbest response I’ve ever seen. If he felt this law unfairly targeted LGBTQ community- which it arguably does- you don’t LOWER the standards, you bring up the standards to make it equal! Instead of this absolute NONSENSE, they should have strengthened the penalties for underage vaginal intercourse, not made it okay for a 23 year to have “consensual” sex with a 13 year old!
What the hell??!!
California has lost their friggin’ minds!!
This is disgusting!!
What is wrong with people??!!
I’m ashamed I was even born in California if this is the kind of acts they legalize!!
SooOooooo you cant buy Cigarettes tell you 18 or Alcohol tell your 21.. But you might get away with not having to register as a sex offender if your sleeping with a Minor when your 10 years older then the victim that is 10. 14 or 17 just depending on the case…cause Senator Wiener said . “This irrational discrimination on the sex offender registry was created when California banned LGBT sex. This distinction between vaginal intercourse and other forms of intercourse is a relic of California’s discriminatory past, and it’s time to bring an end to it. SB 145 brings parity to the sex offender registry so we are treating all young people the same. Going on the sex-offender registry can ruin a young person’s life, making it harder for them to find a job and housing. We need to put an end to this terrible discrimination.”….im Sorry but questioning if you should not register a sex offender because of this SB145 Bill is Rediculous and Disgusting 18 is the legal age to sleep with someone Not 10 . 14. Or 17. Years old Honestly you should just not sleep with a Minor to not register as a sex-offender!. Senator Wiener acting like hes worried about the young people life that will get ruined.. shakes my head #SaveTheChildren
Legal age to purchase alcohol and tobacco is 21 … but these nasty ass mfs can have sex with someone under the age If they’re within 10 years of age of each other. And let’s be honest NO 10 YEAR OLD WILL CONSENT TO THESE THINGS KNOWING WHAT THEY ARE. Which is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING & Whoever disagrees you’re equally disgusting. I have no remorse for those who prey on children. Being a victim of molestation & sexual abuse by two sick members of the family ( which I don’t consider family AT ALL) I will not tolerate these things. It needs to be put to an end and end these nasty people. Lock them in mental institutions, kill them. I don’t care. There’s no room for that type of evil on this world and we need to #SaveOurChildren ! & if you’re 18 you should know not to mess with anyone younger than you! Point. Blank. Period. PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN! & if you see something happening that shouldn’t be happening, PROTECT OTHER PEOPLES CHILDREN!
I agree with you and being a survivor of sexual abuse starting at age 6 – 12 years of age this ever happens to my family member female or male, my shot gun will come out and this is is how I feel. The Democrats think this is a game with our children, then they leave us no choice. Best believe that!
Even though I think that 10 year gap is way to big. I also wonder why having sex with animals is still legal in over 20 states. And the southerners still think it’s ok for family tradition sex when the sheep isnt readily available. Yall got some blinders on huh? Wake up people!
Legality of bestiality in the United States looks at the laws prohibiting bestiality in the United States of America. The legality of sex with animals has been steadily decreasing over the past 20 years. As of February 10, 2018, 45 states and 2 territories ban sex with animals, while 5 states and the District of Columbia have decriminalized it (due to repeal of sodomy laws).[1] In 2017, five states (Texas, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont and Nevada) introduced legislation to ban bestiality, with Nevada, Vermont, and Texas enacting laws banning it in 2017.[2][3][4][5][6] New Hampshire and Ohio also banned sex with animals in 2017 (they had 2016 bills which went into effect in 2017).[7][8]
In late 2017, a bill was introduced in Wisconsin which intends to make sex with animals a felony there.[9] In 2018, five bills were introduced to ban sex with animals: in California (the California bill would make sex with animals a felony), Louisiana (criminalizes promoting or encouraging it), Hawaii, Kentucky, and West Virginia.[10][11][12][13][14]
Several states, including Oregon, Washington, Tennessee, Illinois, Florida, Alaska and Ohio, criminalize free speech related to sex with animals (such as promoting or encouraging it).[1] These laws have all been recently enacted.
Please get home! Your village misses it’s idiot!
Any act with any minor under the age of 16 (which I chose due to that minors ability to claim emancipation “adulthood”) by any adult should be maintained as a sex offender registration requirement. Period.
At what age does a child have the ability to voice Or even comprehend Personal consent?
What happens if they drug the child and get consent?! Or claim they got consent? The victim would have to prove it was not consensual on top of proving they were raped?! Absolutely pissed as hell that anyone would vote this through. Who is on this appropriations committee?! I’d be happy to get signatures to put an end to this evil.
Change.org ? You can put it out for the masses to see and get it & Weiner out of here. Curious if he is related to Anthony Weiner the Pedophile ❓❓❓❓
Absolutely disgusting – as a victim of child molestation myself, and now sadly the mother of a girl that is also a victim this is appalling. I am dumbfounded at the governments lack of ability to protect us and our children. Honestly… what are you doing?!
It is no doubt that you are part of the problem Katy. Absolutely disgusting for promoting child sex crimes. Don’t know how you sleep at night. But my best guess is that you are lied to and manipulated to spread more propaganda. As we watch the deep state go down, we will watch all puppet reporters like you go with them. #Defundthemedia
We are reaping the harvest of a nation that has corporately turned its back on GOD.
Referring to QAnon as “the anti-child-sex-trafficking activist group” is dangerous and quite frankly ridiculous. They are a group of conspiracy theorists who target innocent people and threaten them. Giving them credibility is irresponsible.
So does this mean the next legalization of vile disgusting behavior to our children be that child porn will be considered Ok too as long as they are getting compensated and/or there’s an adult present to keep them “safe“? Where is that line that shouldn’t be crossed at?? As a survivor of molestation for 6yrs myself the last thing I wanted was for his life to go on being normal because mine sure as heck wasn’t. This is unbelievable.
I understand many of the commenters concerns. I read the bill and it seems they are all overreacting and failing to see that this will help those who have fallen through the cracks.
“Currently, if a 14- to 17-year-old and a partner who is less than 10 years older have consensual sex, it is illegal, but the law does not require someone convicted in such a case to register as a sex offender if they had vaginal intercourse; it gives a judge discretion. If the case involves oral or anal intercourse, however, the offender must register.”
IT OBVIOUSLY TAKES 2 DISGUSTING INDIVIDUALS TO CREATE A BILL THAT IN ANYWAY , SHAPE OR FORM ALLOWS THIS TO HAPPEN. I HOPE THAT NEITHER State Senator Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and Assemblywoman Susan Eggman (D-Stockton) HAVE CHILDREN. AND IF THEY DO THEY NEED TO BE VISITED BY CPS. VOTE THESE PEOPLE OUT ASAP. DONT VOTE PARTY, VOTE FOR THE CONTENT OF ONES CHARACTER. PEDOPHILIA IS A CRIME THAT SHOULD BE PUNISHABLE BY DEATH. NO EXCEPTIONS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE…SERIOUSLY???
https://babylonbee.com/news/hollywood-rushes-to-make-pedophilia-acceptable-before-theyre-outed-by-ghislaine-maxwell
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I just love how ironic it is that he is complaining about getting death threats and how social media and mainstream media isn’t doing their job keeping these threats at bay……now you know how Trump has felt for 4 years. And also calling the right deplorables and homophobes and racists but throws a fit when he’s called a pedophile. How’s it feel asshole?
What in the hell is this world coming to. I am a mother , and i am appalled at this wiener you your self must of engaged i child sexual acts to even come up with this bill we as parents and Americans must protect our children. There must be a way to veto this bill if we can come up with a petition. How could any one want to protects these sick disgusting waste of breath perverts, why shame on this who are in agreement with this bill. To touch and engage with a child who has baby parts you deserve fire and brimstone you deserve to have you penis cut off and served to you on a platter with that dum ass bill because. All of you sick bastards deserve to choke on your own dicks. Parents unite veto the bill
This bill is just one of many attempts by the sick and vile groups LGBT and all other perverts that want to rape children for gross subhumans
Exactly!! First the media began to promote gay/lesbians movies etc…to get it in kids heads that it’s ok to be gay and now they are covering for these pedophiles in order to get their way with kids. Children don’t know any better and a molester will do everything to get close to them specially now with doors wide open!! Voting republican! These sick democrats are the devil.
Omg California’s have lost their minds. I was born and raised there, California was a great place to live but the politics have detroyed it. These people that think this bill is OK They need to rotten h*** Gotta have no mercy for their soul Just sick!!!!!????
I JUST NEED TO SAY, I HAVE A SISTERS THAT WERE 15/16 MARRY A 30/35 YEAR OLD ANOTHER 15/116 MARRY A 25/28 YEAR OLD, ANOTHER 14 MARRY A 20 YEAR OLD. THEY ALL HAVE KIDS NOW AND ITS AKWARD CAUSE ALL THE HUSBANDS ARE OLD. I GREW UP SEEING THIS, SICKENING!
If California legalizes something like this their statehood should be rejected after we carve out a percentage of their landmass based on the percentage of the opposition. The only other option is to forcibly remove their demented government!
The only reason these perverts are trying to ease the restrictions on the pedophiles in their state is because they know they’re under the radar, and going down. Who wants to live in a pedophile state? No one with kids, City of angels? More like city of demons. Pedophile destroys children.
He’s a sick pedophile. We are getting rid of all of you. The red wave will drown all of you disgusting communist pedophiles, and supporters.
That’s just sick! Are all Democrats in California changing to child abusers??? I have two grown up daughters. If some sick person would touch them when when they were 14 I think I would be able as mother to hard the person,
And I’m loving people very much. You do whatever you want but LEAVE THE KIDS OUT OF THIS sickols.
Californians, vote anyone who supported this bill OUT Of OFFICE!!! Completely giving cover for pedophiles. It’s sooooooo hard to get anyone successfully prosecuted for rape or child molestation and law makers are spending their energy on making it harder to protect victims.