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Senator Wiener with fellow LGBT Legislative Caucus members Susan Eggman, Todd Gloria, Toni Atkins, Ricardo Lara, Cathleen Galgiani, Evan Low, and Sabrina Cervantes. (Sen. Wiener photo gallery)
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CA Democrats Author Bill to Protect Sex Offenders Who Lure Minors

No sex offender registry if perpetrator within 10 years of age of the minor

By Katy Grimes, February 19, 2019 3:03 pm

State Senator Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and Assemblywoman Susan Eggman (D-Stockton) introduced recent legislation “to end blatant discrimination against LGBT young people regarding California’s sex offender registry.”

However, under their bill, SB 145, the offenders would not have to automatically register as sex offenders if the offenders are within 10 years of age of the minor.

State Senator Scott Wiener. (Kevin Sanders For California Globe)

Wiener claims the current law “disproportionately targets LGBT young people for mandatory sex offender registration, since LGBT people usually cannot engage in vaginal intercourse.”

Existing law, the Sex Offender Registration Act, amended by Proposition 35 by voters in 2012 (Ban on Human Trafficking and Sex Slavery), requires a person convicted of a certain sex crime to register with law enforcement as a sex offender while residing in California or while attending school or working in California.

Wiener says, “Currently, for consensual yet illegal sexual relations between a teenager age 15 and over and a partner within 10 years of age, ‘sexual intercourse’ (i.e., vaginal intercourse) does not require the offender to go onto the sex offender registry; rather, the judge decides based on the facts of the case whether sex offender registration is warranted or unwarranted. By contrast, for other forms of intercourse — specifically, oral and anal intercourse — sex offender registration is mandated under all situations, with no judicial discretion.”

“This bill would authorize a person convicted of certain offenses involving minors to seek discretionary relief from the duty to register if the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor,” SB 145 states.

Proposition 35 was created and passed to protect children from sexual exploitation and sex trafficking. Victims of sex trafficking are often vulnerable children, “afraid for their lives and abused—sexually, physically, and mentally,” the Proposition said.

What Does SB 145 Also Do?

Legislators Wiener and Eggman say they are trying to shield LGBT young people from having to automatically register as sex offenders for specified sex crimes. But their bill does much more.

Assemblywoman Susan Eggman

SB 145 would allow a sex offender who lures a minor with the intent to commit a felony (i.e. a sex act) the ability to escape registering as a sex offender as long as the offender is within 10 years of age of the minor.  No specification is made as to whether the sexual offender is straight or LGBT.

SB 145 would add a section to the state’s penal code (Section 290.55) stipulating that as long as the offender is “not more than 10 years older than the minor,” they are not automatically mandated to register as a sex offender. There is no age limit or range specified, except for existing law which already excludes lewd acts with children under 14.

SB 145 appears to allow adults to victimize minors by luring them with the intent to have sex, and then shields the predator from being automatically registered as a sex offender, as in the case of a 25 year old luring a 15 year old for sex, or a 22 year old luring a 12 year old.

SB 145, as currently written, appears to allow certain sexual predators to live among the population without anyone being aware.

Why is this bill needed?

Here is the text from SB 145:

This bill would authorize a person convicted of certain offenses involving minors to seek discretionary relief from the duty to register if the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor.

Digest Key – Vote: MAJORITY   Appropriation: NO   Fiscal Committee: YES   Local Program: NO

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 290.55 is added to the Penal Code, immediately following Section 290.5, to read:

290.55. (a) A person convicted of an offense specified in subdivision (b) may, by writ of mandate, seek discretionary relief from the duty, imposed as a result of that conviction, to register pursuant to the act if, at the time of the offense, the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor, as measured from the minor’s date of birth to the person’s date of birth.

Here is the current California Penal Code § 288.3 (2017)

(a) Every person who contacts or communicates with a minor, or attempts to contact or communicate with a minor, who knows or reasonably should know that the person is a minor, with intent to commit an offense specified in Section 207, 209, 261, 264.1, 273a, 286, 287, 288, 288.2, 289, 311.1, 311.2, 311.4 or 311.11, or former Section 288a, involving the minor shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for the term prescribed for an attempt to commit the intended offense.

(b) As used in this section, “contacts or communicates with” shall include direct and indirect contact or communication that may be achieved personally or by use of an agent or agency, any print medium, any postal service, a common carrier or communication common carrier, any electronic communications system, or any telecommunications, wire, computer, or radio communications device or system.

(c) A person convicted of a violation of subdivision (a) who has previously been convicted of a violation of subdivision (a) shall be punished by an additional and consecutive term of imprisonment in the state prison for five years.

Last week, California Globe reported on another sex crime bill introduced by California Democrats: “legislation to shield a person from the consequences of crimes they commit in California, even violent ones, as long as the person reports the crimes to authorities.The language of the proposed statute appears to immunize a person from ANY crime so long as they are reporting a violation of a sex crime law.”  Sen. Scott Wiener is the author of California Senate Bill 233.

Katy Grimes

Katy Grimes, the Editor of the California Globe, is a long-time Investigative Journalist covering the California State Capitol, and the co-author of California's War Against Donald Trump: Who Wins? Who Loses?
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174 thoughts on “CA Democrats Author Bill to Protect Sex Offenders Who Lure Minors

  1. “SB 145, as currently written, appears to allow certain sexual predators to live among the population without anyone being aware.”
    Exactly. And why the heck does Sen Scott Wiener care so much about protecting sexual predators and care so little about protecting California’s children? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

        1. Not everyone has maternal or paternal instincts. Trauma from sexual abuse does not go away even with forgiveness, therapy and a positive attitude. It cripples you emotionally. These people have no protective instincts. They are spiritually dead and that is sad.

          1. Absolutely right! I was molested throughout my childhood, it stays with you and the memories pop up uninvited at random times. I’m 72 now and it’s still there.

          1. Says who? What makes you think that you’re qualified to speak for over 350 million Americans? What records do you have?

          2. Joevabart (February 21, 2019 at 9:04 pm):

            Ummm, there are not 350 million Americans. There are about that many people living in the U.S. but absolutely most of them are not Americans at all. They have no idea what actual freedom is. No American could possibly even BEGIN to support the Registries. It only takes a very casual look at them to know that. Quite clear.

            People who support Registries need to go F themselves and move to some piece of sh*t, third world cesspool of a country where they’d fit in better. People who do not zealously support the freedom of other people deserve no freedom.

          3. I can’t tell you right now that I’m American and I support registries. Due to the fact of I want to know if there are sex offenders in my area and you want to sit here and say that everyone who supports it is a piece of shit? Imagine having a daughter and having her get raped by a multiple time sex offender that live around the corner from your house. But he doesn’t have to register because he says he’s LGBT. Yeah.

          4. Molesters need to have a tire out around them, lighter fluid applied, lighter ignited, and burned in the streets for all to see! Then maybe these mentally fucked up people might think twice before committing a crime!! Registering is a slap on the wrist compared to what really should happen to them!!!

        2. Mike, in all cases a judge decides the sex offender status. Under the old law if a 18 year old girl gets caught giving her 17 year old boyfriend a blow job she would automatically be registered as a sex offender for the rest of her life. The type of sex was the determining factor. If she risked pregnancy and had vaginal sex then a judge would decide if she was a sex offender. Judges should weigh in for all cases. That makes common sense.

          1. I agree, so why give the predators rights to prey on the innocent when a judge can easily resolve the 17 to 18 years of age cases? They don’t obey the laws anyway, this is their dream ticket to molesting and getting away with it!!!

          2. Finally. Someone else who actually read the article. Now a judge has descretionary oversight regardless if the type of sex. That’s the only change. As a victim myself and having 2 other family members go through this a generation later I want all predators removed from society so they won’t hurt anyone else. This article is very inflammatory considering it just makes all sex acts treated the same way.

      1. Definitely not about freaking time. If someone is abused and their families know that the perpetrator won’t be labeled for life as they SHOULD be, now they’ll likely, as they should, take the matter into their own hands. Then the perpetrator won’t have to worry about being labeled for life because theirs will be over.

      2. So your 22 year old male neighbor can have anal sex with your 12 year old son and you are good with that? That’s kinda sick!

      3. If a 17 year old is having sex with a 10 year old, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that their sexual orientation really doesn’t matter here. Pedophilia is Pedophilia, it doesn’t matter how many acronyms you throw at it.

      4. You are ABSOLUTELY INSANE!!!! How is protecting an adult from taking advantage of a minor (and no, a minor does NOT have the right to consent to have sex with an adult, 18 or over) get to get away with this shit? You must not have children. I mean even people without children know better. You do understand that this allows someone as young as 8….EIGHT YEARS OLD, to be sexually assaulted, again no such thing as consent from an EIGHT year old either, AND NOT BE REGISTERED AS A SEX OFFENDER?????????????? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU??????? WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?????????

        1. Jim, the law simply allows judges to evaluate the case before deciding if sex offender registration is required. If a 18 year old girl gives a 17 year old boy a blue job, she would have been automatically required to register as a sex offender for life. Now a judge will decide if that is appropriate.

          1. Sounds good in theory but if it is written the way it is a 20 year old can sex up a 10 year old with zero registration. The 10 year span is too wide. Just move the consent age to15 and go from there!

        2. You said it all for me!!! Thank you!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

      5. You must be insane… so if a 23 year old male sexually assualts my 13 year old daughter the shouldn’t have to register… so i shouldn’t register my gun…

      6. You’re an idiot. There is nothing common sense coming out of Sacramento. LGBT groups shut the hell up. You get these people (and I use that term loosely) to author weird bills and since the majority of the senate and house are idiot Democrats that know nothing normal, they cater to the fringe. Tired of this shit. This has nothing to do with gay rights moron.

      7. 18 to 25 year olds are not kids and should know not to prey upon children. This law update should not exist. Just because someone is lgbt does not mean they should be permitted to lure minor children into sex, without full registration under the law and consequential criminal penalties. Minors should be protected from any and alluring by nonminors and anyone who thinks otherwise should be checked for rabies or mental illness. Includibg both Legislators Wiener and Eggman. They should be impeached for reckless endangerment of minors. They are jxxxaxxxes!!

      8. You Virginia are an actual idiot. So an 18 year old could lure an 8 year old under this legislation and no crime? . Seriously….go drink acid. You are evil.

      9. If some 23 year old molests my 13 year old granddaughter he isn’t going to be labeled a sexual predator!! WTF is wrong with you!! Oh I forgot you are libturds. Liberalism is a mental disorder! Stay in Cali perverts!!

      10. Are you nuts? This lets a predator off without registering as an offender. When is it ever okay to engage in sex with a minor? You are part of what’s wrong with your warped state!

      11. I’m curious, Virginia. What do you personally believe the age of sexual consent should be? Also, if a 20 year old has sex with a 10 year old, do you believe that’s consensual?

        Thanks:)

      12. Within 2-4 years, maybe, and only for those over the age of consent. When kids play doctor, that’s something for parents to talk with them about. Children should not be sexually active with any partners until they’re emotionally and mentally capable of engaging as adults. Sexuality should be private, not plastered all over the place, on media, and in homes via the media. Children get the wrong messages about their intrinsic value, and many end up having it wrapped up in their ability to please others at their own expense. This is especially true for the growing number of people now developing high functioning autism, as well as other autoimmune, inflammatory disorders, diseases, and responses. We live in an entirely too toxic world. And it shows.

      13. This is not common sense, common sense would involve absolving young adults who may be in close in age and in consensual relationships, not adult praying on young people. Epstine is prime example.

      14. Virginia Hall, if you really believe this is anything approaching “common sense”, you need to be locked up!

      15. You must be a sexual predator…..you like to violate kids….. I’m keeping my eyes on you faggot, lisbo, queer, or whatever the fuck you are, confused Mfer.

    1. Cute word game you are attempting to play, but let’s refer to the actual wording.
      It specifies “may, by writ of mandate, seek discretionary relief from the duty …. to register …” So the relief would not be automatic – it would be at a judge’s discretion.
      Secondly, you don’t seem bothered by the existing law that allows the same discretionary relief so long as it involves vaginal intercourse – it’s only when the law is expanded to include oral or anal intercourse that you become upset. Anti-LGBT much???

      1. You got a great point, the law should be changed to read “all convictions of any sexual act at any age must register as a sex offender” It is bad enough these young people are scared to come forward when these acts happen and know they will not have the fear of registering as a sex offender for life. My 20+ year marriage ended do this very issue age difference was only about 6 years. These acts scars victims and future families for life. Thier is more than the only the LGBT community this applies. Wish people would stop to think about the majority not the minority!

      2. This opens the door for a payoff. So the rich pedophiles can buy their way out. Yup, only California could come up with something like this!

      3. Pedophilia is wrong whether your gay or straight. A judge to make a “decision “ whether to “protect” a person who molested a 10 year old?? Are you freaking kidding me dude? There should be no decision making at all! It should be straight punishment! It goes against moral decency. It absolutely baffles me beyond my mind that a person would think it’s okay that their 10 year old child gets molested by someone who’s also gay and think “oh that’s okay, he’s gay, he doesn’t know any better, no punishment for him” For someone who’s absolutely okay with this bill is an idiot

      4. Anti-children much??? Any decent person would be more concerned with protecting childrens safety than protecting a bunch of adults with mental problems and screwed up morals!!!

    2. Here it is: the very rich and powerful LGBT caucus in the Democrat dominated state of California is working to protect pedophiles, those who would harm and abuse children. This bill would protect an 19 year old man that molests an 9 year old. The nation needs to see this. This is abhorrent.

    3. Here it is: the very rich and powerful LGBT caucus in the Democrat dominated state of California is working to protect pedophiles, those who would harm and abuse children. This bill would protect a 19 year old man that molests an 9 year old. The nation needs to see this. This is abhorrent.

    4. What this new law does is allow equal treatment with a judge weighing in on sex offender status for all cases. Previously, if a man and a woman were caught in the act, and they were 17 and 18 years of age, a judge might rule that life time sex offender status was not appropriate. However, if two young men of 17 and 18 years age were caught doing something similar. The 18 year old would automatically be a sex offender for life. Basically, the previous law gave special status to penis/vagina sex, and everything else was automatic sex offender for life status. Now a judge can decide. It is much more reasonable now.

    5. Why place the Democratic party ahead in the headline? Just because they are Democrats it doesn’t mean all Democrats are in agreement over this proposal. As a Democrat myself I am totally against it.

    6. All I can say is I hope his children are next to be violently attacked by one of these disgusting pieces of human trash because there no fixing this type of illness they convict them they let them out and they do it again and again till they are caught. history has proven that but I guess they think they are safe behind ther gates and wall so the rest of have to live with in our nabour hoods

    7. You are worst then sex offender.. All I hope that you all have children and pray that one of these sex offender that you let free won’t be one that will attack one of your kids or family members and see how you going to feel that pain because I believe in karma and it going to bite you in the ass..parasite that what you all are..🖕🏼🖕🏼🤬

    8. California lawmakers gone amock. Just more signs the state is in serious trouble. Our children are at risk. Does anyone in Sacramento care?

  2. So… in addition to fleeing the highest taxes in the nation all Californians with kids under the age of 18, gay or straight, must flee the state to protect their children from sexual predators. No adult, gay or straight, should be having sexual encounters with a minor. Period. #protecthechildren #downwithhumantrafficking #pedophiliaiswrongwhether you are gayorstraight #unconscianable #wtfCalifornia?!!!

    1. So an 18 year old who has sex with his 16 year old girlfriend should be branded a sex offender for the rest of his life? Is that what you suggest?

      1. I think the issue is…why did they stop there? Of course common sense is needed in those cases. So why did they not simply specify THAT, vs allowing a ten year age gap? Seems to me that if they really cared about kids they’d have made ALL sexual acts punishable and not left a loophole for genuine pedophilia/assault. It’s not that bloody hard. And yeah, I get that it’s a discretionary decision by a judge. Our judges have turned out to be so honorable and upstanding, right?

  3. It would be refreshing if leftist activists would disclose up front that they see irrelevant and unnecessary legislation such as this trivia not as “common sense laws” or seeking “justice,” but instead as one more opportunity to create confusion and to undermine an otherwise functioning society.
    I’m thankful that not all LGBT folks consider themselves to be members of an identity group but would prefer to be seen as individuals…. as most people do.

  4. This is more “fake” (or at the very least inaccurate) news. The byline states “No crime if the person is within 10 years of age of the minor,” yet this is not at all what this bill seeks to accomplish. Neither is “luring” minors involved. The bill, as proposed, would not decriminalize the unlawful sexual activity. Instead, it would give discretionary (not mandatory) authority to a judge to not require the convicted to register as a sex offender. The bill does nothing to impact the unlawfulness of the underlying criminal activity. This act is designed to give judges the option to not require sex offender registration in cases where the individuals involved are close in age (example: 22 and 17), where there was no violence or coercion, and where requiring the defendant to register as a sex offender would be unduly harsh. Since when is over-punishing non-violent, non-predatory conduct considered a “conservative” virtue?

    1. I agree with what your statement says…I looked at the old bill and the revised bill and I see what it is intended to do.I read other people comments and I see a lot of overreaction and misunderstanding of facts.Hopefully,they won’t all be quick to jump out there with protests and shit…They will look very dumb.

  5. I’m confused as to how the author claims the bill “protects sex offenders who lure minors.” I don’t see where such crimes will not be prosecuted or terms of imprisonment avoided. All I see is where it gives judges discretion whether or not mandate registration. Even if the bill passes, it won’t affect anything – judicial discretion very rarely swings in favor of those accused of sex offenses.

    Over 95% of sex crime is committed by those not on the registry. That rate is virtually unchanged from before the registry went public. Despite popular opinion, those convicted of sex offenses are among the least likely recidivists (second only to murderers) and always have been. Even among the very small handful of registrants that do sexually re-offend, the registry plays no role in investigation or arrest. I defy anyone to find one case anywhere where a current registrant committed another sex crime that would not have been solved but for the registry.

    Seems like the author disagrees with most courts’ contention that the registry is not punishment because legislatures never intended them to be, a rather idiotic claim. That’s like saying the Rams won the Super Bowl because they didn’t intend to lose. At least the author got one thing right in this inane clickbait posting.

  6. Once again the state of California and especially the liberal democrats prove that they would sell their children to gain votes. Parents with small children should know who are the criminals in their neighborhood. California democrats have and are giving away the few protections left to American citizens. They are surrendering everything to gain votes from mentally unstable people.

    1. I assume that people who want a sex offender registry also want a registry that shows everything anyone has been convicted of. This is, after all, the only way to make sure that parents know where the dangerous people are. Arsonists, burglars, drunk drivers, etc, are far more likely to be dangerous to children that those who have committed sex offenses. Therefor, shouldn’t there be a felon database available to everyone?
      (This has been a sarcastic post, intended to point out the stupidity of the sex offender registry.)

  7. The $EX Offender Registries ($ORs) serve no legitimate public safety or law enforcement purpose. The purpose of the $ORs is for gossip, to grow Nanny Big Government (NBG) bigger, help politicians, fuel the outrage media, and enable and promote punishment/harassment/restrictions, including by private businesses, throughout all of Amerika. THAT is the use of the $ORs.

    People who think the $ORs “work” or do anything beneficial, are completely uninformed. Today, there are no people who are actually serious about public safety or protecting children who support the $ORs. None.

    Empirical evidence from actual reality, and not Registry Fantasyland, proves that the $ORs have not been useful. But it can be shown by simple examples as well. Say that you have two neighbors – one is listed on the $ORs and one is not. Which one has committed more $EX crimes? Which one is more dangerous today? You don’t have the first clue. Can you treat either of them any differently and still be protecting you and/or your family? Clearly not. So what has your $OR knowledge done for you? Nothing. All it will do is allow immoral people to gossip and ostracize the Registered person and his/her family. Obviously the $ORs are not something that moral people need.

    Yet while the $ORs are not needed or significantly beneficial, they are gravely harming all of Amerika. They are responsible for widespread hate. Everyone needs to embrace and love that.

    Remember that “if you see something, say something” nonsense? Forget it. The NBG criminal regimes have proven that they are immoral. They are not the solution. F them and their harassment “databases”.

  8. Under no circumstances is it acceptable for an adult to have relations with a minor. Man-girl, man-boy, woman-boy, woman-girl: all are equally repugnant. (A 24 year old having sex wuth a 14 year old? Just no)! Only a nut would be okay with that. As a parent and grandparent, I would be livid if an adult tried anything with one of my kids.

    1. Oh so you think Germany’s crazy? Cause there that’s legal. What about most of South America? Are they crazy too? Doubt it.

      1. Yes Jack, we immigrated from germany and they are crazy….crazier by the day. And with the huge influx or so-called “refugees” making a shambles of the country we knew, along with the rest of Europe, will be a memory. And yes…South America is crazy as well, and with the invasion taking place, the US soon will be as well

    2. But your own children are grown now (since you have grandchildren.) So you would be upset if a grown adult expressed interest in one of your own grown adult children? I mean, that’s what you said, right? That you’d be livid if an adult tried anything with one of [your] kids (who are now adults)?

      1. David you are giving out the impression that you are either gay, a sex offender or one who has no morals at all. To put a person on a sex offender list definitely makes that person very aware of what they have done and that usually means they will never do it again. Giving them any kind of lee way to commit the crime again and not having to worry about anyone knowing about it will not stop them from doing it over and over. It is insane to even think of older people using children for their sexual pleasure, and the idea of passing laws to lessen this as a crime is senseless. We are seeing a lot of this in the states these days and that is very sad. Morals have been thrown out the window and anything seems to be OK, as you are sounding like one who thinks that way. Now if you are not intending to make people think of you as this kind of person…maybe you should either stop writing anything or change what you are saying.

    1. Not what the article said, at all. Made it abundantly clear it would only apply to offenses involving minors aged 15 and up.

    2. Leo…Thanks for the example that would be a registering offense. Any judge that said otherwise would be headed down the Aaron Persky trail I don’t think you’re reading the article correctly. First off, this is leveling the playing field in cases of oral/anal sex verses vaginal sex. A 21 year old male meets a 17 year old female (with a fake ID) in a bar. They go back to his place and have vaginal sex. He can be prosecuted by law, Ignorance is no excuse, but he may not have to register as a sex offender (Discretion), But if they have oral sex he will have to register. This will allow the judge to decide whether he is a threat to society or not. What do you think?
      Some laws just seem illogical to me. Years ago I read about a 23 yr. old police officer in Indiana who was living with his girlfriend who was seventeen. That’s legal in that state. They also had sex which is legal there. But, he crossed the line when he took naked pictures of her with his cell phone. Federal child pornography laws. Go figure?

    1. My, my such a stark warning, Mr. Allen. You understand, don’t you, that this media is read nationwide. And the remarks added by people could come from anywhere. … even Russia, China
      Germany, etc. How in the world would you imagine that anyone posting a comment to this website would ever happen to cross paths with one of your children??? That said, I hope you now feel very self-satisfied that your have verbally protected your loved one.

  9. Am I reading this right? A 26 year old having sex with a 16 year old high school Sophomore should not have to register as a sex offender? That adult is the very DEFINITION of a sex predator, and any adult who indulges in such behavior BELONGS on the registry. Parents should know who this person is so they can protect their child and keep the predator away from them. This is such one step in the normalization of child abuse. Sickening!

    1. You’re not reading it right. The law makes it so a judge would decide.
      Previously a judge would already decide if a registration was made, in cases involving vaginal intercourse. A 26yo having sex with a 16yo would not imply automatic registration, a judge would decide. However, if it was just a blowjob, the registration would be automatic. Same goes for anal intercourse. The new law would make it so that a judge also decides in those cases.
      So nothing changes on that front, as a judge would rule to register the perpetrator as a sex offender. What does change is that in a case where a judge would rule against a registration, e.g. a 17yo male and an 18yo female having consensual vaginal intercourse, the judge gets the ability to do so for two males involving anal intercourse as well.
      This is good as it keeps the registry clean of people who really shouldn’t be in it and makes sure those that should be in it still are. That way there is more trust in the registry.

      1. Seems as though you think you are patiently explaining why this proposed law is fine but actually you are digging a deeper hole for yourself as well as possibly reminding people why the law as it stands should require mandatory sex offender registration for all adults who can’t keep their mitts off of minors.

  10. It’s about time this could save a lot of kids in high school 15 and up so there whole life isn’t taken away from them for life for being young a stupid l

    1. I have friends and family in the LBGT community. Thankfully they are good humans. And I hardly see where this bill would make or break your sanctuary cities. You are not going to know who the hell they are anyway or where to find them.

  11. Yall are some sick f*cks, Keep bending the rules, U already have a state that sends foster children to live with registered pedophiles,, I have to give it to you ,, YOUre open with your vile behavior, Itll be easier for us to take u down in the SC-

  12. Every piece of legislation Scott Weiner proposes seems to always deal with protection of those who would/want to sexually abuse minors.

  13. LGBTQs get ‘turned’ by an older adult when they are 14/15. This is a fact. part of the dark history of LGBTQs. They are only protecting themselves.

    1. That would explain the hyper-energetic nastiness and bullying we’re seeing from some of the Pro-Wiener Bill commenters on this article. They’re desperate for this bill, they must have it! And apparently by any means necessary

  14. This is why the kids who were murdered during/after the Fox Island sexual/child molestation scandal in the Midwest broke the news have never been caught or charged.. because of loose laws like these being on the books allowing people to be serial child molesters or child murderers.. so very very sick! These politicians need to have their families turned upside down by a horrible policy they implemented onto the American people to benefit themselves in a position of power against them! Only way they change is when their own laws backfire on them!

  15. May all of these sicko “legislators” roast in Hell for pushing and protecting pedophilia. Shame on you for helping perverts abuse children.

  16. This is an attempt to legalize child perversion and molestation at its core. These people should not only be exposed as registered sex offenders, they should be required to consent to psychiatric care and counseling on a regular basis by a professional. Age difference between individuals doesn’t mean anything. A pervert or child molester generally has a preference for a particular type and age group of victims. With time this may regress to a younger version but not likely. A person of say 22 who molested a 12 year old, will in general always prefer 12 year olds not someone 10 years younger.

  17. “…under their bill, SB 145, the offenders would not have to automatically register as sex offenders if the offenders are within 10 years of age of the minor.”

    Just think about that for a minute. If the predator is 21 he/she can prey upon children that are 11 years old. In my book, that should get them a smoker to the brain pan.

  18. Your stupid laws are putting people at risk..you think your protecting..your exposing them…I’m sick of you throwing the LGBT agenda at everyone..as if that’s who you are trying to protect…you don’t seem to know what your really legislationing..

  19. California has lost its mind, and, naturally, the mentally ill homos are leading the way. God, these people were so much bearable when they TOO knew there was something grossly wrong with them. Now, with all their “civil rights” and bona fides of an actual victim group, they are unbearable. Gee thanks, California.

  20. Missing one “tiny” bit: “provided the minor is above legal sexual consent’s age”!!!! And it’s NOT 12 year old…No matter how grown up they think thez are now days at that age.

  21. Exteding the welcome mat of sexual volvement with kids to the adults within 11 years of age does not seem to be a wise thing to do here. Does it not effectively say, “Crime-free child molesting available here. Inquire within”? Even with it only applying to offenders of 15-17-year-olds, you are putting the responibility on a teenagers. Where is the wisdom there? SHOULD that same age be allowed to buy guns? Buy cars? Vote? Join the military? Divorce his parents? Brothers and sisers?

  22. Nice fake news headline.
    1. Now. If a 20 yo does 17 yo vaginally, older participant may or may not be registered as a pedo depending on judgment on the case (so presumably if they are dating for longer time etc judge will not add register on top of conviction. But any other orifice is haram, straight to register even if this the most benign case.
    2. After it’s passed. Same judgment applies to every orifice.

  23. This is clearly a protect the pedophile bill. The next thing that will happen is a 24 year old pedophile will claim they thought their victim was 14 when they were actually 11 and should get off because the victim looked older. You get the government you deserve. It’s time to start recalling these pedophile enablers.

  24. Look, the GOP is a pack of weak betas, but anyone still voting Democrat is an enemy of civilization and humanity.

    I don’t care what your array of personal political issues are, voting for Democrats is voting for the ultimate destruction of the system that lets you have those personal political views. They are the party of death and filth and hate.

    Pull your heads out of your ignorant ássès, stop gobbling down the mainstream media propaganda, and wake up before it’s too late.

  25. Wow. Such a great title to rattle the ignorant with their pitchforks. No one is luring your children. At least not the great majority of them who are on the registry. You know who’s luring your children? Other children, your spouse, your brother, your brother in-law, your neighbor, clergy, teacher, coaches…basically ANY ONE who is not already on the registry. Let me tell you, I was brutally raped over a decade ago. The assailant? Not a stranger on the registry. It was a neighbor. In fact, he STILL isn’t on the registry because you know that women seem to be second class citizens to children when rape occurs.

    The registry is an exercise in failure. If Representative Weiner really wants to make a difference, END THE REGISTRY NOW!

  26. I am actually horrified at this new bill, and actually glad I live on the east coast. I realize that this bill allows the Judge to make the determination on whether it is a sex crime or not, but have you watched the decisions of Ca. judges over the years including the 9th circuit court of appeals, if I was a Californian, I would be worried. The 10 year difference is laughable as well, it means a 25 year old can have whatever sex he or she wants with your 15 year old and it is perfectly fine????? I realize that CA folks think Georgians are all crazy hillbillies with a confederate flag tattooed across their chest or buns, but our age difference in any sexual encounter is 5 years difference!! Common sense!!!

  27. And would this law make it illegal for parents to deny their kids to have sex with the neighborhood pedophile down the street. Have to wonder.

  28. LGBT People, not straight and it’s relationships not by force. its their choice, maybe should be less than 10 yrs diff.
    Fearmongers among us, think straight and take a breath, your the ones who JUMP to conclusions without ALL the FACTS first.
    This bill is designed for future of young people that admit LGBTQQ. Not everyday and thanks David , it IS the Judge’s DISCRETION on EVERY CASE not fall by the AUTO BUTTON wayside, each one by the presiding Judge not the others or just by justification of age.
    THINK, before you jump and straight parents and straight grandparents, its for the LGBTQQ population that are in a RELATIONSHIP that the age is affected, maybe an 15 y.o. with a 17 y.o. for a long period and are at school and together to protect them both.

  29. Can someone save us? What do we do when the sickos are the majority and can pass laws to protec themselves? We are powerless. The constitution has failed us!

    1. Please. Only uninformed idiots support $EX Offender Registries. Are they Democrats? Or the harassing, big government Republicans? I don’t know and I don’t care. We need to stop people who love big government and their hit lists. That I know.

  30. I didn’t even read this article. Anyone who talks about the $EX Offender Registries ($ORs) are if they are anything more than a giant, immoral, un-American, useless pile of sh*t is an idiot. Any talk about changing the $ORs is just talking about pushing sh*t around. It’s not going to change the pile to make it suddenly useful somehow.

    The $ORs serve no legitimate public safety or law enforcement purpose. The purpose of the $ORs is for gossip, to grow Nanny Big Government (NBG) bigger, help politicians, fuel the outrage media, and enable and promote punishment/harassment/restrictions, including by private businesses, throughout all of Amerika. THAT is the use of the $ORs.

    People who think the $ORs “work” or do anything beneficial, are completely uninformed. Today, there are no people who are actually serious about public safety or protecting children who support the $ORs. None.

    Empirical evidence from actual reality, and not Registry Fantasyland, proves that the $ORs have not been useful. But it can be shown by simple examples as well. Say that you have two neighbors – one is listed on the $ORs and one is not. Which one has committed more $EX crimes? Which one is more dangerous today? You don’t have the first clue. Can you treat either of them any differently and still be protecting you and/or your family? Clearly not. So what has your $OR knowledge done for you? Nothing. All it will do is allow immoral people to gossip and ostracize the Registered person and his/her family. Obviously the $ORs are not something that moral people need.

    Yet while the $ORs are not needed or significantly beneficial, they are gravely harming all of Amerika. They are responsible for widespread hate. Everyone needs to embrace and love that.

    Remember that “if you see something, say something” nonsense? Forget it. The NBG criminal regimes have proven that they are immoral. They are not the solution. F them and their harassment “databases”.

  31. Wow! 22 year old can have sex with a 12 year old! Fucking disgusting , most 12 years are just starting puberty their bodies are not fully developed nor their minds. This is just sickening! It would make more sense if was getting sex offenders that were 21 having sex with a 17 year old, not a fucking 12 year old and a 22 year old!

  32. Ridiculous!! This opens way too many doors!! Every pedophile will use this to excuse their actions. Why does a 25 yr need to date a 15 yr old? You cant go out together to bars, or clubs. They have school so no romantic vacations. The only appeal is, control, innocence and a childlike appearance. That makes you a predator regardless of your sexual preference. God help us all if this goes through.

  33. This also opens the way to sharia law and child brides. In America we call it rape, where they come from it’s called normal.

  34. I say lets throw these idiots into a cell naked with 4 of the biggest, nasty, gross looking sex offends and come back in 24 hours I am sure they will all sign a different tune.

  35. Ms Egghead had to many knees slamming shut on the head that should be in a contest for new Halloween Freak Mask.
    Put the sick”O’s” in office and they try and make laws for the sick.
    Sounds like if I’m 20 yo I can hump a 10 yo.
    California the Southern part should just drop into the Pacific on Shark Feed Day.
    Just close all mental illness hospitals because they are all in state government.
    That governor is the top POS.

  36. I didn’t even read this article. Anyone who talks about the $EX Offender Registries ($ORs) are if they are anything more than a giant, immoral, un-American, useless pile of sh*t is an idiot. Any talk about changing the $ORs is just talking about pushing sh*t around. It’s not going to change the pile to make it suddenly useful somehow.

    The $ORs serve no legitimate public safety or law enforcement purpose. The purpose of the $ORs is for gossip, to grow Nanny Big Government (NBG) bigger, help politicians, fuel the outrage media, and enable and promote punishment/harassment/restrictions, including by private businesses, throughout all of Amerika. THAT is the use of the $ORs.

    People who think the $ORs “work” or do anything beneficial, are completely uninformed. Today, there are no people who are actually serious about public safety or protecting children who support the $ORs. None.

    Empirical evidence from actual reality, and not Registry Fantasyland, proves that the $ORs have not been useful. But it can be shown by simple examples as well. Say that you have two neighbors – one is listed on the $ORs and one is not. Which one has committed more $EX crimes? Which one is more dangerous today? You don’t have the first clue. Can you treat either of them any differently and still be protecting you and/or your family? Clearly not. So what has your $OR knowledge done for you? Nothing. All it will do is allow immoral people to gossip and ostracize the Registered person and his/her family. Obviously the $ORs are not something that moral people need.

    Yet while the $ORs are not needed or significantly beneficial, they are gravely harming all of Amerika. They are responsible for widespread hate. Everyone needs to embrace and love that.

    Remember that “if you see something, say something” nonsense? Forget it. The NBG criminal regimes have proven that they are immoral. They are not the solution. F them and their harassment “databases”.

  37. This is why we know Jesus Christ is coming soon. I’m not sure all of us are even human anymore. Sure let’s celebrate murdering babies AFTER they are born and by all means – let’s advocate for sexual child abuse because that’s how democrats like it.

  38. These lawmakers are sick and twisted individuals and should have their humanity revoked. That is if they had any in the first place.

  39. California went full retard finally…..you people who made this bill should be fired and sent to prison for even thinking this is ok…..

    1. Nope. Spoken like an actual INFORMED, moral American. Something that “people” who support Registries know nothing about. But you keep harassin’ and gittin them there “$EX offenders”! F you anti-Americans.

  40. What sucks here is the fact that it is exclusively for G.L.B.T. people!!! To be “covered”, one has to be GAY, LESBIAN, BISEXUAL or TRANSGENDER!!! And the victims must all be the SAME SEX as the perpetrator!!! Hence, you have a situation where if it’s gay, it’s o.k. If it’s NOT gay, it’s NOT o.k!!! Heterosexuality is NOT COVERED!!! This is why heterosexuals are filling up the sex offender registries by the THOUSANDS every single day, while the gay people are “safe” from the law!!! After all, only heterosexual MALES violate defenseless women and children, right?!!? RIIIIGHT!!! There’s no harm done if the victims are the same sex, right?!!? RIIIGHT!!! This means that if our prepubescent daughters get molested by some sicko clown at a carnival, we will be able to send his sorry ass through a chipper and shredder!!! But if our prepubescent BOYS get molested by that same sick carnival clown, we won’t be able to touch him due to “Gay Rights Legal Protections!!!”
    WOW!!! Doesn’t that just warm your heart and make you feel all “cuddly” inside!!! It sure does make the gay and lesbian PEDOPHILES feel all “warm and fuzzy” inside!!! God help us, this nation is DOOMED!!!

  41. This is crazy !?!? As I get older I trust people less . How can we put so much responsibility on 1 flawed person . (cause we all are) what if you have a judge who is a strict catholic every gay dude will be going to jail no matter the situation. Or judge golf’s with a rapest that guy has a free ticket to run a muck . Never put to much power in 1 persons hand THEY WILL ABUSE IT. money and status is everything to so many people there will be abuse of power .

  42. If there was ever any question that Satan is real and his influence has continued to spread in our culture, that question has been answered. I’m glad I live in Illinois (although another blue state). I should be far enough away from these legislators to risk any chance of getting struck during an electrical storm.

    “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
    -Jesus Christ

    1. I have to agree with that. $EX Offender Registries ($ORs) are a direct product from Satan. $ORs are not needed or beneficial. And they cause grave harm to all of Amerika. No informed, sensible person can defend $ORs.

      So why do we have them? For hate. That is the bottom line. It is not PC any longer to hate “coloreds” or practice apartheid on them, so today we’ve got some new people to hate. Amerika has always needed that.

  43. $EX Offender Registries ($ORs) do make “common sense”. But if they WERE actually useful, where are the rest of the Nanny Big Government (NBG) Registries? I guess we are only worried about $EX! Figures.

    $ORs do make common sense but it takes very little examination to see that they actually aren’t needed or useful at all, AND are very harmful to all of society. $ORs serve no legitimate public safety or law enforcement purpose. The purpose of the $ORs is for gossip, to grow NBG even bigger, help politicians, fuel the outrage media, and enable and promote punishment/harassment/restrictions, including by private businesses, throughout all of Amerika. THAT is the use of the $ORs.

    People who think the $ORs “work” or do anything beneficial, are completely uninformed. Today, there are no people who are actually serious about public safety or protecting children who support the $ORs. None.

    Empirical evidence from actual reality, and not Registry Fantasyland, proves that the $ORs have not been useful. But it can be shown by simple examples as well. Say that you have two neighbors – one is listed on the $ORs and one is not. Which one has committed more $EX crimes? Which one is more dangerous today? You don’t have the first clue. Can you treat either of them any differently and still be protecting you and/or your family? Clearly not. So what has your $OR knowledge done for you? Nothing. All it will do is allow immoral people to gossip and ostracize the Registered person and his/her family. Obviously the $ORs are not something that moral people need.

    Yet while the $ORs are not needed or significantly beneficial, they are gravely harming all of Amerika. They are responsible for widespread hate. Everyone needs to embrace and love that.

    Remember that “if you see something, say something” nonsense? Forget it. The NBG criminal regimes have proven that they are immoral. They are not the solution. F them and their harassment “databases”.

  44. This is what happens when Democrats have no competition due to change in demographics from illegal and legal mass immigration. The plan now is to have conservatives adopt leftist social policies, while retaining only right leaning economic stance (tpusa). If you want to see these laws go away we need conservative voices in california that bring traditional family values and condemn LGBT lifestyles.

  45. For everyone who thinks it all right because a judge has discretion…are you out of your minds? Have you seen some of the rulings judges have come out with lately?

  46. Wtf is wrong with people what about the rights of the victims? Your worried about the rights of these sick fucks , I think you need to be more worried about the victims and protect them instead of the sick fuckers that are doing this shit . I can’t believe I just read this shit. Anyone who agrees with this shit obviously must be a child molester anyone in their right mind would NEVER agree with this crap

    1. Oh, you people. So sad. We have the rights of victims covered a thousand times over. That’s why we put people in prison.

      But anyway, there aren’t any informed, moral people in all of Amerika today who think Registries are a good idea or support them. Zero. Experts never did support Registries and never will. And wow, have they ever been proven that they were right all along! Registries are counterproductive stupidity.

      Unfortunately, most of the dipsh*ts living in Amerika are big government loving boot lickers who need big government to fake “protect” them. So we have Registries. But just for $EX. Because nothing else is dangerous. Sad.

  47. Needs to be said again:

    I didn’t even read this article. Anyone who talks about the $EX Offender Registries ($ORs) are if they are anything more than a giant, immoral, un-American, useless pile of sh*t is an idiot. Any talk about changing the $ORs is just talking about pushing sh*t around. It’s not going to change the pile to make it suddenly useful somehow.

    The $ORs serve no legitimate public safety or law enforcement purpose. The purpose of the $ORs is for gossip, to grow Nanny Big Government (NBG) bigger, help politicians, fuel the outrage media, and enable and promote punishment/harassment/restrictions, including by private businesses, throughout all of Amerika. THAT is the use of the $ORs.

    People who think the $ORs “work” or do anything beneficial, are completely uninformed. Today, there are no people who are actually serious about public safety or protecting children who support the $ORs. None.

    Empirical evidence from actual reality, and not Registry Fantasyland, proves that the $ORs have not been useful. But it can be shown by simple examples as well. Say that you have two neighbors – one is listed on the $ORs and one is not. Which one has committed more $EX crimes? Which one is more dangerous today? You don’t have the first clue. Can you treat either of them any differently and still be protecting you and/or your family? Clearly not. So what has your $OR knowledge done for you? Nothing. All it will do is allow immoral people to gossip and ostracize the Registered person and his/her family. Obviously the $ORs are not something that moral people need.

    Yet while the $ORs are not needed or significantly beneficial, they are gravely harming all of Amerika. They are responsible for widespread hate. Everyone needs to embrace and love that.

    Remember that “if you see something, say something” nonsense? Forget it. The NBG criminal regimes have proven that they are immoral. They are not the solution. F them and their harassment “databases”.

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